Caelan wrote:
What would cause a minimally sore horse to go from ouchy on gravel and
slightly off but rideable to Grade 5, tripping, head bobbing lame in 5
days. The horse arrived at the farm on Thursday being off and sore,
but not dead lame. He was not ridden or worked and was turned out in a
large pen, alone. The pen has good footing. He ate, passed manure and
drank normally. He was wormed with ivermectin on Friday. He did not
appear to be stressed about his new environment. yesteday and today he
was dead lame. Barely able to walk on concrete. Doesn't look like a
founder as it's front end generalized. He is an 11 yr old draft cross
rope/ranch horse, otherwise healthy. Feet look ok, no heat. No
specific sore points in legs or shoulders when palpated. Ideas?

Abscess. First guess.
Lyme can present in strange and drastic ways.

Eileen Morgan
The Mare's Nest

I wonder though, can it be an abcess in both feet? He favours both
equally. I was told it was a stone bruise, but I dont buy it. He was
supposedly sound at the broker's farm when she rode him at least
twice.

What would cause a minimally sore horse to go from ouchy on gravel and
slightly off but rideable to Grade 5, tripping, head bobbing lame in 5
days.

Caelan <dippenflip... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
What would cause a minimally sore horse to go from ouchy on gravel and
slightly off but rideable to Grade 5, tripping, head bobbing lame in 5
days.

The bute wore off.

Nancy DeMarco
Mason, NH

What would cause a minimally sore horse to go from ouchy on gravel and
slightly off but rideable to Grade 5, tripping, head bobbing lame in 5
days.

The horse arrived at the farm on Thursday being off and sore,
but not dead lame. He was not ridden or worked and was turned out in a
large pen, alone. The pen has good footing. He ate, passed manure and
drank normally. He was wormed with ivermectin on Friday. He did not
appear to be stressed about his new environment. yesteday and today he
was dead lame. Barely able to walk on concrete. Doesn't look like a
founder as it's front end generalized.

He is an 11 yr old draft cross
rope/ranch horse, otherwise healthy. Feet look ok, no heat. No
specific sore points in legs or shoulders when palpated. Ideas?

On Jul 6, 6:02 pm, Caelan <dippenflip... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:

What would cause a minimally sore horse to go from ouchy on gravel and
slightly off but rideable to Grade 5, tripping, head bobbing lame in 5
days.

Could be anything - drugs wearing off is a possibility.

The horse arrived at the farm on Thursday being off and sore,
but not dead lame. He was not ridden or worked and was turned out in a
large pen, alone. The pen has good footing. He ate, passed manure and
drank normally. He was wormed with ivermectin on Friday. He did not
appear to be stressed about his new environment. yesteday and today he
was dead lame. Barely able to walk on concrete. Doesn't look like a
founder as it's front end generalized.

Laminitis is a front end problem most of the time.

He is an 11 yr old draft cross
rope/ranch horse, otherwise healthy. Feet look ok, no heat. No
specific sore points in legs or shoulders when palpated. Ideas?

Do you know how to check the digital pulse?  Is he reluctant to move
and seemingly painful equally on both sides?  Laminitis would be my
guess if so... Laminitis in a new horse can be an issue because his
feed is usually changed - what has he been given for feed?  What was
he eating at his last home?  Has any of his recent feed been moldy?

Abscess would be the guess if it's mainly on one foot.  A horse can
have abscesses in two feet, sure.  Your vet needs to come out and put
some hoof testers on and figure out what's going on.  If it's
laminitis, it needs to be fixed before there is any rotation (or any
more rotation.)

I hope this is not your new horse!
Good luck!
cindi

What would cause a minimally sore horse to go from ouchy on gravel and
slightly off but rideable to Grade 5, tripping, head bobbing lame in 5
days. The horse arrived at the farm on Thursday being off and sore,
but not dead lame. He was not ridden or worked and was turned out in a
large pen, alone. The pen has good footing. He ate, passed manure and
drank normally. He was wormed with ivermectin on Friday. He did not
appear to be stressed about his new environment. yesteday and today he
was dead lame. Barely able to walk on concrete. Doesn't look like a
founder as it's front end generalized. He is an 11 yr old draft cross
rope/ranch horse, otherwise healthy. Feet look ok, no heat. No
specific sore points in legs or shoulders when palpated. Ideas?

Feet look ok, no heat. No
specific sore points in legs or shoulders when palpated. Ideas?

What would cause a minimally sore horse to go from ouchy on gravel and
slightly off but rideable to Grade 5, tripping, head bobbing lame in 5
days. The horse arrived at the farm on Thursday being off and sore,
but not dead lame. He was not ridden or worked and was turned out in a
large pen, alone. The pen has good footing. He ate, passed manure and
drank normally. He was wormed with ivermectin on Friday. He did not
appear to be stressed about his new environment. yesteday and today he
was dead lame. Barely able to walk on concrete. Doesn't look like a
founder as it's front end generalized. He is an 11 yr old draft cross
rope/ranch horse, otherwise healthy. Feet look ok, no heat. No
specific sore points in legs or shoulders when palpated. Ideas?

Caelan <dippenflip... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
What would cause a minimally sore horse to go from ouchy on gravel and
slightly off but rideable to Grade 5, tripping, head bobbing lame in 5
days.

The bute wore off.

Nancy DeMarco
Mason, NH

Yup. It's my new horse. I have him on trial. I think the trial just
ended. I have a feeling this is not going to be a smooth backwards
transaction, however.

Three duds in a row now.

Caelan <dippenflip... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
What would cause a minimally sore horse to go from ouchy on gravel
and slightly off but rideable to Grade 5, tripping, head bobbing
lame in 5 days.

The bute wore off.

Yup. It's my new horse.

Three duds in a row now. This is really heart breaking since he is an
absolute *doll* tempermentwise. Just the sweetest horse you could
imagine. And dead quiet. Any quieter and I think he would be actually
dead,

Is there a test which can be performed to see if the horse was
injected or chemically altered somehow?

On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 13:49:03 -0400, Eileen Morgan <eg... at (no spam) ptd.net
wrote:





cindi wrote:
On Jul 7, 6:44 am, Ocean of Nuance <lizzardwomanRM... at (no spam) nc.rr.com
wrote:

Ruth Baltopoulos wrote:

Stone bruise may be a code word for horse traders, but that doesn't make
it any less viable as a legitimate term for the rest of the world.

Have you ever had one?  I'm not saying they don't exist, Ruth. I'm
saying that horse traders say they are very common when in reality
they seem to be not very common.  I've had 100 horses in and out and
none have ever had one.  I talked to several big time horse sellers
and they never had one either, and a vet who agreed it's not very
common.  Pretty sure that's all I was saying.

Maybe it depends on location. Here where we have rocky ground, hot and
dry and hot and wet and cold and wet and cold and dry, sometimes all in
a four week period, they are not terribly uncommon. Spot had some this
spring, Dolly has had one or two.

I think this is a realistic assessment.

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