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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:48 pm
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Hi bird friends-

I have recently put down a ground feeder for the mourning doves that
visit my patio--and I am inundated with flies. I put up a couple of
non-toxic flypaper strips, but those pesky flies stick to the
groundfeeder mostly so the flypaper doesn't work. A few of the
smaller birds, house wrens mostly , also feed from the groundfeeder.
Is there any safe way to get rid of the flies --maybe there is a
product they can't stand the smell of which wouldn't bother birds.

Your advice will be greatly appreciated.

TIA
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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:48 pm
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On Jun 26, 7:48 pm, deet at (no spam) sorryme wrote:
Quote:
Hi  bird friends-

I have recently put down a  ground feeder for the  mourning doves that
visit my patio--and I am inundated with flies.  I put up a couple of
non-toxic flypaper strips, but those  pesky flies stick to the
groundfeeder mostly so the flypaper doesn't work.  A few of the
smaller birds, house wrens mostly , also feed from the groundfeeder.
Is there any safe way to get rid of the flies --maybe there is a
product they can't stand the smell of which wouldn't bother birds.

Your advice will be greatly appreciated.

TIA
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  deet

How about Shell "No Pest Strips?"

They've been criticized (carcinogenic or whatever)--what hasn't-- tho
hanging a couple of 'em outside nearby couldn't hurt, or could it? I
dunno.

Birds don't dine on flies too?

I would think you've got natural fly predators, which is surely the
best kind
Robert Cohen...
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:48 pm
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On Jun 26, 9:00 pm, Lanny Chambers <la... at (no spam) hummingbirds.net> wrote:
Quote:
In article
0225b70b-58b2-4ae5-a6d4-9902267eb... at (no spam) m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
 Robert Cohen <robtco... at (no spam) msn.com> wrote:

Birds don't dine on flies too?

Of course they do. There's a whole family called (...wait for it...)
Flycatchers.

We won't use poisons anywhere in our yard. As a result, we have more
birds than anyone in the neighborhood, because there's more for them to
eat here. We also have the greenest yard. We don't fool with plants that
have pest problems--too many better choices, and life is too short to
waste on losing wars with insects.

As for why so many flies: perhaps the birdseed was full of fly eggs or
maggots? I'd throw the lot out and try a different source for seed.

--
Lanny Chambers
St. Louis, MO

re: "contaminated" birdseed

This happenerd to us, and it separtately happened to our friend, so i
figure it happens a lot

Purchase bird seed in platsic bag at grocery store, put seed bag in a
cupboard, and oops forget it's there

Welll. ya might know what happened

The moth eggs that were in that seed bag HATCHED and a plastic bag
doesn't stop 'em from escaping

The boogers destroyed a lot of junque 'n stuff (including neat picnic
basket we never used either) in that closet, and it was not fun
killing em in kitchen, den etc with fly swatter

As far as I know, the friend never did fully get rid of her "grain
moths," and I stopped bringing up the very annoying subject
when we visited

Georgia Extension Service: THE WAY TO GET RID OF GRAIN MOTHS IS TO
OPEN WINDOWS IN THE COLD OF WINTER TO FREEZE 'EM, air conditioning
may also work, but ours didn't get cool enough I guess

We don't feed birds seeds bought at stores any more, tho wife
occasionally throws bread crumbs on yard & which i have to clean up
disgusting rain soaked dough
Robert Miles...
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:19 pm
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<deet at (no spam) sorryme> wrote in message
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Quote:
Hi bird friends-

I have recently put down a ground feeder for the mourning doves that
visit my patio--and I am inundated with flies. I put up a couple of
non-toxic flypaper strips, but those pesky flies stick to the
groundfeeder mostly so the flypaper doesn't work. A few of the
smaller birds, house wrens mostly , also feed from the groundfeeder.
Is there any safe way to get rid of the flies --maybe there is a
product they can't stand the smell of which wouldn't bother birds.

Your advice will be greatly appreciated.

TIA
--
deet

I found another way you might consider, if you can afford it:

http://www.doyourownpestcontrol.com/SPEC/pick-flytrapft30-1.htm

http://www.doyourownpestcontrol.com/flytrap-Insectalite18watt.htm

http://www.doyourownpestcontrol.com/flytrap-Insectalite30watt.htm

I'm not sure if it's workable outdoors all day, though.
Laurence Sheldon...
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:43 pm
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Robert Cohen wrote:

Quote:
Birds don't dine on flies too?

I would think you've got natural fly predators, which is surely the
best kind

I've been trying to work out what it is about bird-feeding that attracts
flies.
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Lanny Chambers...
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:00 pm
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In article
<0225b70b-58b2-4ae5-a6d4-9902267eb53d at (no spam) m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
Robert Cohen <robtcohen at (no spam) msn.com> wrote:

Quote:
Birds don't dine on flies too?

Of course they do. There's a whole family called (...wait for it...)
Flycatchers.

We won't use poisons anywhere in our yard. As a result, we have more
birds than anyone in the neighborhood, because there's more for them to
eat here. We also have the greenest yard. We don't fool with plants that
have pest problems--too many better choices, and life is too short to
waste on losing wars with insects.

As for why so many flies: perhaps the birdseed was full of fly eggs or
maggots? I'd throw the lot out and try a different source for seed.

--
Lanny Chambers
St. Louis, MO
Hose B...
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:54 pm
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Laurence Sheldon wrote:
Quote:
Robert Cohen wrote:

Birds don't dine on flies too?

I would think you've got natural fly predators, which is surely the
best kind

I've been trying to work out what it is about bird-feeding that attracts
flies.
I dunno. May be standing water? We have a beautiful Orange tree, and

Grapefruit tree, side by side in the back yard. I put a bird feeder
between them, and the little wrens or sparrows, whatever they are come
in droves. I have yet to see a bug in either tree, and we get fantastic
fruit in large amounts.
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:09 am
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On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:00:31 -0500, Lanny Chambers
<lanny at (no spam) hummingbirds.net> wrote:

Quote:

As for why so many flies: perhaps the birdseed was full of fly eggs or
maggots? I'd throw the lot out and try a different source for seed.

No way- I use presealed, resealable, clear heavy plastic bags. And
since sunflower seed hearts have no hulls, I could see any critters
lurking. Besides, there are no flies around the tube or hopper
feeders, which do slightly expose the seed inside.

--
deet
Ray...
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:32 pm
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Laurence Sheldon <lfsheldon at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
I've been trying to work out what it is about bird-feeding that
attracts flies.

Bird droppings maybe?

--
Ray
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Laurence Sheldon...
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:46 pm
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Ray wrote:
Quote:
Laurence Sheldon <lfsheldon at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

I've been trying to work out what it is about bird-feeding that
attracts flies.

Bird droppings maybe?

We have several feeders, including a platform consisting of half a sheet
of plywood (which attracts among other things turkeys).

There is no doubt that birds are sh*tty little critters (especially the
turkeys!).

We have all sorts of flies, including some that seem bigger (and way
nastier) than some of the birds.

But the flies don't hang around the feeders much--they favor (if
anything) around the place we put bales of hay for the deer.

So I'm still a little puzzled.

(We sometimes put food scraps on the platform for the visiting mammals,
et al. and I bet that would be a Bad Thing, fly-wise, if that stayed
long. Night critters, some birds, high winds or heavy rain usually
keeps that cleared up.)


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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:36 pm
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On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:46:32 -0500, Laurence Sheldon
<lfsheldon at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
Ray wrote:


I've been trying to work out what it is about bird-feeding that
attracts flies.

(snip)

We have all sorts of flies, including some that seem bigger (and way
nastier) than some of the birds.

(We sometimes put food scraps on the platform (snip)

Hi Ray:

Thanks for the idea of food scraps. Gonna put out some baked beans
drenched in tabasco sauce. Wish me luck.

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Robert Miles...
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:27 pm
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On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 17:23:52 -0700 (PDT), Robert Cohen
robtcohen at (no spam) msn.com> wrote:


How about Shell "No Pest Strips?"
I used them hanging nearby and the flies just stick to the
groundfeeder. Maybe I will try lying a few on the ground.

I would think you've got natural fly predators, which is surely the
best kind.
I haven't seen any birds going after flies--they just go to the off
ground tube and hopper feeders and eat merrily away, Maybe they like
the food I feed them too much- Sunflower Seed Hearts.

Thanks for taking your time on my problem

Next year, you might want to put out some hummingbird feeders.
The hummingbirds use the energy from sugar water to nectar to
go after insects. I don't know if they like insects that size, though.
Robert Miles...
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:32 pm
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On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:46:32 -0500, Laurence Sheldon
lfsheldon at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

Ray wrote:


I've been trying to work out what it is about bird-feeding that
attracts flies.

(snip)

We have all sorts of flies, including some that seem bigger (and way
nastier) than some of the birds.

(We sometimes put food scraps on the platform (snip)

Hi Ray:

Thanks for the idea of food scraps. Gonna put out some baked beans
drenched in tabasco sauce. Wish me luck.

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deet

Birds, which can't taste the heat from peppers, may like them. Mammals,
which can taste it, aren't likely to. I have no idea what it will do to
flies.
Robert Miles...
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:35 pm
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"Laurence Sheldon" <lfsheldon at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Wilson wrote:

We won't use poisons anywhere in our yard. As a result, we have more
birds than anyone in the neighborhood, because there's more for them to
eat here. We also have the greenest yard. We don't fool with plants that
have pest problems--too many better choices, and life is too short to
waste on losing wars with insects.

Exactly! Same goes for waging war on dandelions Wink We've got to pick our
battles.

As for why so many flies: perhaps the birdseed was full of fly eggs or
maggots? I'd throw the lot out and try a different source for seed.

Kinda like the question "What do we do about the squirrels?!??".

Our answer: "Learn to like squirrels."

Adding hot pepper works on some squirrels, but not all of them.
Laurence Sheldon...
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:43 pm
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Robert Miles wrote:

Quote:
Next year, you might want to put out some hummingbird feeders.
The hummingbirds use the energy from sugar water to nectar to
go after insects. I don't know if they like insects that size, though.

Seems like I have seen the resident male Ruby Throat chasing a butterfly.

And severl here and in California have chased _me_!
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