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| Cheryl Isaak... |
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:41 am |
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Every morning starting as the sun begins to rise (5 AM or so), I'm hearing a
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Veer,veer,veer (pause) Veer, veer, veeeR
If sounds as if it is sitting on the porch roof, but I haven't seen it there
and can't spot it. Some mornings it sounds like there is more than one
singer.
I've used Whatbird to listen to everything I've spotted in the yard,
including a few guesses based on what my neighbor sees at her feeder. I have
a largish open grassy area with the liberal remains of the forest/woods that
were here when we bought the land.
Cheryl |
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| RJP... |
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:41 am |
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On Jun 26, 6:41 am, Cheryl Isaak <cherylis... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
Quote: Every morning starting as the sun begins to rise (5 AM or so), I'm hearing a
call Veer,veer,veer (pause) Veer, veer, veeeR
If sounds as if it is sitting on the porch roof, but I haven't seen it there
and can't spot it. Some mornings it sounds like there is more than one
singer.
I've used Whatbird to listen to everything I've spotted in the yard,
including a few guesses based on what my neighbor sees at her feeder. I have
a largish open grassy area with the liberal remains of the forest/woods that
were here when we bought the land.
Cheryl, it's interesting that you chose that mnemonic for the
vocalization, because that is the one that the Veery gets its name
from. Now, this is the Veery's call, not it's song. But even the
cadence fits. Its song is really fantastic, as are lots of thrushes,
as it sings two notes at once (birds can do this), and sings in
what I call a "downward spiral".
If this is a Veery, it's possible it is no longer singing much (or
at all?). As spring turns into summer, I hear them calling a lot
more often than I hear them singing. And apparently they are
pretty thick in your area in the summer:
http://www.mbr-pwrc.usgs.gov/bbs/htm03/ra2003_red/ra07560.htm
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| Cheryl Isaak... |
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:42 am |
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On 6/26/08 7:41 AM, in article C488F8BC.8D324%cherylisaak at (no spam) comcast.net,
"Cheryl Isaak" <cherylisaak at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
Quote: Every morning starting as the sun begins to rise (5 AM or so), I'm hearing a
call
Veer,veer,veer (pause) Veer, veer, veeeR
If sounds as if it is sitting on the porch roof, but I haven't seen it there
and can't spot it. Some mornings it sounds like there is more than one
singer.
I've used Whatbird to listen to everything I've spotted in the yard,
including a few guesses based on what my neighbor sees at her feeder. I have
a largish open grassy area with the liberal remains of the forest/woods that
were here when we bought the land.
Cheryl
PS - I am in southern NH |
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| Cheryl Isaak... |
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 12:07 pm |
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On 6/26/08 10:18 AM, in article
a8eef071-6e2f-4449-9189-ad43e250cbbf at (no spam) x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com, "RJP"
<pals at (no spam) ipact.com> wrote:
Quote: On Jun 26, 6:41 am, Cheryl Isaak <cherylis... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
Every morning starting as the sun begins to rise (5 AM or so), I'm hearing a
call Veer,veer,veer (pause) Veer, veer, veeeR
If sounds as if it is sitting on the porch roof, but I haven't seen it there
and can't spot it. Some mornings it sounds like there is more than one
singer.
I've used Whatbird to listen to everything I've spotted in the yard,
including a few guesses based on what my neighbor sees at her feeder. I have
a largish open grassy area with the liberal remains of the forest/woods that
were here when we bought the land.
Cheryl, it's interesting that you chose that mnemonic for the
vocalization, because that is the one that the Veery gets its name
from. Now, this is the Veery's call, not it's song. But even the
cadence fits. Its song is really fantastic, as are lots of thrushes,
as it sings two notes at once (birds can do this), and sings in
what I call a "downward spiral".
If this is a Veery, it's possible it is no longer singing much (or
at all?). As spring turns into summer, I hear them calling a lot
more often than I hear them singing. And apparently they are
pretty thick in your area in the summer:
http://www.mbr-pwrc.usgs.gov/bbs/htm03/ra2003_red/ra07560.htm
Randy
Thanks Randy,
The veery call is certainly close. I'll listen again tomorrow AM after they
wake me up and the call is "fresh" to the ear.
Cheryl |
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| RJP... |
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 5:28 pm |
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"Cheryl Isaak" <cherylisaak at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
Quote: Thanks Randy,
The veery call is certainly close. I'll listen again tomorrow AM after they
wake me up and the call is "fresh" to the ear.
Cheryl - one more thing that just occurred to me. Since you are in NH,
this also could be a Bicknell's Thrush. Their call is very similar to the Veery,
except higher in pitch.
Randy |
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| Cheryl Isaak... |
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:15 pm |
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On 6/26/08 6:28 PM, in article pcWdnWryZ9K9hfnVnZ2dnUVZ_uGdnZ2d at (no spam) comcast.com,
"RJP" <rjpalsDeLeTe at (no spam) comcastSPAMFREE.net> wrote:
Quote: "Cheryl Isaak" <cherylisaak at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
Thanks Randy,
The veery call is certainly close. I'll listen again tomorrow AM after they
wake me up and the call is "fresh" to the ear.
Cheryl - one more thing that just occurred to me. Since you are in NH,
this also could be a Bicknell's Thrush. Their call is very similar to the
Veery,
except higher in pitch.
Randy
The more I think about it, neither is quite right. It's more of a one note
call - veer, veer, veer than a ve-er, ve-er
C
I'm thinking it has to be small but I could be wrong.
Thanks for the help though |
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| Leon Fisk... |
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:46 am |
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On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:15:21 -0400, Cheryl Isaak
<cherylisaak at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
Quote: On 6/26/08 6:28 PM, in article pcWdnWryZ9K9hfnVnZ2dnUVZ_uGdnZ2d at (no spam) comcast.com,
"RJP" <rjpalsDeLeTe at (no spam) comcastSPAMFREE.net> wrote:
"Cheryl Isaak" <cherylisaak at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
Thanks Randy,
The veery call is certainly close. I'll listen again tomorrow AM after they
wake me up and the call is "fresh" to the ear.
Cheryl - one more thing that just occurred to me. Since you are in NH,
this also could be a Bicknell's Thrush. Their call is very similar to the
Veery,
except higher in pitch.
Randy
The more I think about it, neither is quite right. It's more of a one note
call - veer, veer, veer than a ve-er, ve-er
C
I'm thinking it has to be small but I could be wrong.
Thanks for the help though
How much of a pause between each veer?
Robins make a noise that I would describe as a high pitched
"seee, seee, seee,". Quite often I hear it early morning and
late evening. Maybe a 2-4 second pause between each seee
sound.
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Leon Fisk
Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b
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| Lanny Chambers... |
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:00 pm |
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In article <o46a64l99drji30t6cjtrlvs6pe7odnku6 at (no spam) 4ax.com>,
Leon Fisk <lfisk at (no spam) no.spam.iserv.net> wrote:
Quote: Robins make a noise that I would describe as a high pitched
"seee, seee, seee,".
I think that's an alarm call. Look for a hawk, owl, or cat.
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| Leon Fisk... |
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:14 pm |
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On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:00:17 -0500, Lanny Chambers
<lanny at (no spam) hummingbirds.net> wrote:
Quote: In article <o46a64l99drji30t6cjtrlvs6pe7odnku6 at (no spam) 4ax.com>,
Leon Fisk <lfisk at (no spam) no.spam.iserv.net> wrote:
Robins make a noise that I would describe as a high pitched
"seee, seee, seee,".
I think that's an alarm call. Look for a hawk, owl, or cat.
Could be, never really associated it as a danger call.
Usually the only critter around at the time is me, hmmm...
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Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b
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| RJP... |
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:33 pm |
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"Leon Fisk" <lfisk at (no spam) no.spam.iserv.net> wrote:
Quote: On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:00:17 -0500, Lanny Chambers
lanny at (no spam) hummingbirds.net> wrote:
In article <o46a64l99drji30t6cjtrlvs6pe7odnku6 at (no spam) 4ax.com>,
Leon Fisk <lfisk at (no spam) no.spam.iserv.net> wrote:
Robins make a noise that I would describe as a high pitched
"seee, seee, seee,".
I think that's an alarm call. Look for a hawk, owl, or cat.
Could be, never really associated it as a danger call.
Usually the only critter around at the time is me, hmmm...
I have that experience too, Leon, although it makes some sense that it
would be an alarm call. I hear the juvs doing that quite a bit, and they
are frequently distressed by the brave new world.
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| Cheryl Isaak... |
Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:12 am |
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On 6/27/08 8:28 AM, in article p3n964d8hu9h6plod0oi2nooa1r74vl91q at (no spam) 4ax.com,
"maryann kolb" <mkolb at (no spam) sc.tds.net> wrote:
Quote: On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:07:56 -0400, Cheryl Isaak
cherylisaak at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
On 6/26/08 10:18 AM, in article
a8eef071-6e2f-4449-9189-ad43e250cbbf at (no spam) x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com, "RJP"
pals at (no spam) ipact.com> wrote:
On Jun 26, 6:41 am, Cheryl Isaak <cherylis... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
Every morning starting as the sun begins to rise (5 AM or so), I'm hearing
a
call Veer,veer,veer (pause) Veer, veer, veeeR
If sounds as if it is sitting on the porch roof, but I haven't seen it
there
and can't spot it. Some mornings it sounds like there is more than one
singer.
I've used Whatbird to listen to everything I've spotted in the yard,
including a few guesses based on what my neighbor sees at her feeder. I
have
a largish open grassy area with the liberal remains of the forest/woods
that
were here when we bought the land.
Cheryl, it's interesting that you chose that mnemonic for the
vocalization, because that is the one that the Veery gets its name
from. Now, this is the Veery's call, not it's song. But even the
cadence fits. Its song is really fantastic, as are lots of thrushes,
as it sings two notes at once (birds can do this), and sings in
what I call a "downward spiral".
If this is a Veery, it's possible it is no longer singing much (or
at all?). As spring turns into summer, I hear them calling a lot
more often than I hear them singing. And apparently they are
pretty thick in your area in the summer:
http://www.mbr-pwrc.usgs.gov/bbs/htm03/ra2003_red/ra07560.htm
Randy
Thanks Randy,
The veery call is certainly close. I'll listen again tomorrow AM after they
wake me up and the call is "fresh" to the ear.
Cheryl
I'm not familiar with the Veery's song so I thought Cardinal when I
read your post.
Mary Ann
Barnwell, SC
To my ear, the cardinal is more a two syllable, ve-er, not a veer....
I still am not sure what the bird...
Cheryl |
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| Cheryl Isaak... |
Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:16 am |
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On 6/27/08 12:46 PM, in article o46a64l99drji30t6cjtrlvs6pe7odnku6 at (no spam) 4ax.com,
"Leon Fisk" <lfisk at (no spam) no.spam.iserv.net> wrote:
Quote: On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:15:21 -0400, Cheryl Isaak
cherylisaak at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
On 6/26/08 6:28 PM, in article pcWdnWryZ9K9hfnVnZ2dnUVZ_uGdnZ2d at (no spam) comcast.com,
"RJP" <rjpalsDeLeTe at (no spam) comcastSPAMFREE.net> wrote:
"Cheryl Isaak" <cherylisaak at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
Thanks Randy,
The veery call is certainly close. I'll listen again tomorrow AM after they
wake me up and the call is "fresh" to the ear.
Cheryl - one more thing that just occurred to me. Since you are in NH,
this also could be a Bicknell's Thrush. Their call is very similar to the
Veery,
except higher in pitch.
Randy
The more I think about it, neither is quite right. It's more of a one note
call - veer, veer, veer than a ve-er, ve-er
C
I'm thinking it has to be small but I could be wrong.
Thanks for the help though
How much of a pause between each veer?
Robins make a noise that I would describe as a high pitched
"seee, seee, seee,". Quite often I hear it early morning and
late evening. Maybe a 2-4 second pause between each seee
sound.
Less pause - maybe half a second and not close to anything I can find on
line for a robins calls.
C |
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| maryann kolb... |
Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:43 am |
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On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 08:12:33 -0400, Cheryl Isaak
<cherylisaak at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
Quote: On 6/27/08 8:28 AM, in article p3n964d8hu9h6plod0oi2nooa1r74vl91q at (no spam) 4ax.com,
"maryann kolb" <mkolb at (no spam) sc.tds.net> wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:07:56 -0400, Cheryl Isaak
cherylisaak at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
On 6/26/08 10:18 AM, in article
a8eef071-6e2f-4449-9189-ad43e250cbbf at (no spam) x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com, "RJP"
pals at (no spam) ipact.com> wrote:
On Jun 26, 6:41 am, Cheryl Isaak <cherylis... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
Every morning starting as the sun begins to rise (5 AM or so), I'm hearing
a
call Veer,veer,veer (pause) Veer, veer, veeeR
If sounds as if it is sitting on the porch roof, but I haven't seen it
there
and can't spot it. Some mornings it sounds like there is more than one
singer.
I've used Whatbird to listen to everything I've spotted in the yard,
including a few guesses based on what my neighbor sees at her feeder. I
have
a largish open grassy area with the liberal remains of the forest/woods
that
were here when we bought the land.
Cheryl, it's interesting that you chose that mnemonic for the
vocalization, because that is the one that the Veery gets its name
from. Now, this is the Veery's call, not it's song. But even the
cadence fits. Its song is really fantastic, as are lots of thrushes,
as it sings two notes at once (birds can do this), and sings in
what I call a "downward spiral".
If this is a Veery, it's possible it is no longer singing much (or
at all?). As spring turns into summer, I hear them calling a lot
more often than I hear them singing. And apparently they are
pretty thick in your area in the summer:
http://www.mbr-pwrc.usgs.gov/bbs/htm03/ra2003_red/ra07560.htm
Randy
Thanks Randy,
The veery call is certainly close. I'll listen again tomorrow AM after they
wake me up and the call is "fresh" to the ear.
Cheryl
I'm not familiar with the Veery's song so I thought Cardinal when I
read your post.
Mary Ann
Barnwell, SC
To my ear, the cardinal is more a two syllable, ve-er, not a veer....
I still am not sure what the bird...
Cheryl
Cardinals' songs can vary from bird to bird. You are right in that
many have a two part song. I have one that sits high in one of my
trees this year and starts out like he is whistling for the dog and
then starts a clear , loud CHEER, CHEER, CHEER. By the way, my
Cardinals have had a succesful year. I am seeing quite a few
juveniles right now.
Mary Ann
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:14 am |
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maryann kolb wrote:
Quote: Cardinals' songs can vary from bird to bird. You are right in that
many have a two part song. I have one that sits high in one of my
trees this year and starts out like he is whistling for the dog and
then starts a clear , loud CHEER, CHEER, CHEER. By the way, my
Cardinals have had a succesful year. I am seeing quite a few
juveniles right now.
I'm convinced that Cardinals (and maybe others, I'm not careful enough
an observer to say) have regional accents.
Seems to me (and "me" and "you" are parts of the interpretive problem)
around here they say "RightCHeeeeeeer! Pretty pretty birdy birdy".
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| Leon Fisk... |
Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 1:54 pm |
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On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 08:16:41 -0400, Cheryl Isaak
<cherylisaak at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
Quote: On 6/27/08 12:46 PM, in article o46a64l99drji30t6cjtrlvs6pe7odnku6 at (no spam) 4ax.com,
"Leon Fisk" <lfisk at (no spam) no.spam.iserv.net> wrote:
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Quote: How much of a pause between each veer?
Robins make a noise that I would describe as a high pitched
"seee, seee, seee,". Quite often I hear it early morning and
late evening. Maybe a 2-4 second pause between each seee
sound.
Less pause - maybe half a second and not close to anything I can find on
line for a robins calls.
C
It was a long shot, I've never heard Robins use this call in
that rapid a sequence. Two of my better books on bird song
describe this sound as Cedar Waxwing like. One thinks that
it is used during evening roost flights, but I've never
heard it used in that way.
Get that recorder out and get us a sample to ponder over ;-)
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Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b
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