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Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 10:22 pm

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http://www.wired.com/entertainment/music/magazine/16-06/st_3smartthings

Telstar...

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Language is likely derived from musical pitches.

Don Phillipson...

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:29 pm

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"Language is likely derived from musical pitches. "

WIRED offers no source for this. It also says "aspects of spoken
English and Mandarin correlate to the intervals between notes in a
chromatic scale (the black and white piano keys in an octave)" but
does not say what "aspects" is supposed to mean. We know
that spoken sounds have pitches (frequencies) and there are
intervals between (some) pitches, but pitches (frequencies) do
not have intervals. We wonder what "aspects" of the voice
can have intervals.

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Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

Peter T. Daniels...

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:58 am

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"Language is likely derived from musical pitches. "

WIRED offers no source for this. It also says "aspects of spoken
English and Mandarin correlate to the intervals between notes in a
chromatic scale (the black and white piano keys in an octave)" but
does not say what "aspects" is supposed to mean. We know
that spoken sounds have pitches (frequencies) and there are
intervals between (some) pitches, but pitches (frequencies) do
not have intervals. We wonder what "aspects" of the voice
can have intervals.

Neither lexical tone, as in Chinese, nor suprasegmental tonal
contours, as in English, have anything to do with absolute pitch. The
information they contain is held strictly in the contrasts between
different pitches.

Andrew Schulman...

Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:26 am

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On Jun 17, 12:30 am, "Telstar" <n... at (no spam) none.net> wrote:

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Language is likely derived from musical pitches.

Daniel Levitin writes about this in his book, "This Is Your Brain on
Music: The Science of a Human Obsession"

Andrew

Adam Funk...

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 3:47 pm

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On 2008-06-19, Peter T. Daniels wrote:

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If they were based on absolute pitch, then only people with perfect
pitch would be able to speak those languages ... or everyone who
learned such a language natively would have perfect pitch!

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The wonderful thing about standards is that there are so
many of them to choose from. [Grace Murray Hopper]

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