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| Paul Swift... |
 Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 5:03 am |
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hi folks,
apologies if this is the wrong place to post this. When playing beach,
we've had a couple of incidents where the player, in moving to get a
ball, moves the boundary line away from the centre of the court. The
player then misses the ball, which lands on the line.
11.3: The ball is "in" when it touches the ground of the playing court
including the boundary lines (Rule 1.3)
1.3.1 Two sidelines and two end lines mark the playing court. Both side
and end lines are placed inside the dimensions of the playing court.
So, do the lines determine the court, or do they simply indicate where
the court is? The latter seems more likely, but almost impossible to
judge for the referee. Thoughts?
Paul |
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| Eric Launderville... |
| Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 6:39 am |
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This is the way that I've understood & interpreted the line rules for
beach. If the line is unintentionaly moved and the ball hits the line
or inside of the "new in" area then the ball is considered in. The
movement of the line could be done by a player or wind, it doesn't
matter. This is also assming that the lines don't fail (break).
So in the case of your example, the ball would be considered "in" by
applying the above intreptation.
There would be no way for a Referee to beable to judge where the line
was. They have to go by where the line is, as long as the line is
moved in a sportsmen like manner. I say this because, in fun pick up
games with friends, I've tried to move the lines to get a "cheat"
point.
Eric
www.digthisvolleyball.com
www.mnvolleyballhq.com
On May 22, 5:03 am, Paul Swift <p... at (no spam) ceh.ac.uk> wrote:
Quote: hi folks,
apologies if this is the wrong place to post this. When playing beach,
we've had a couple of incidents where the player, in moving to get a
ball, moves the boundary line away from the centre of the court. The
player then misses the ball, which lands on the line.
11.3: The ball is "in" when it touches the ground of the playing court
including the boundary lines (Rule 1.3)
1.3.1 Two sidelines and two end lines mark the playing court. Both side
and end lines are placed inside the dimensions of the playing court.
So, do the lines determine the court, or do they simply indicate where
the court is? The latter seems more likely, but almost impossible to
judge for the referee. Thoughts?
Paul |
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| Mike... |
| Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 6:09 am |
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On May 22, 6:03�am, Paul Swift <p... at (no spam) ceh.ac.uk> wrote:
Quote: hi folks,
apologies if this is the wrong place to post this. �When playing beach,
we've had a couple of incidents where the player, in moving to get a
ball, moves the boundary line away from the centre of the court. �The
player then misses the ball, which lands on the line.
So, do the lines determine the court, or do they simply indicate where
the court is? �The latter seems more likely, but almost impossible to
judge for the referee. �Thoughts?
Paul
If the line is moved by a player "unintentionally," the referee ( in
pickup games the players should agree amongst themselves as to the
outcome ) should determine whether the ball would have been in or out
based on the previous position of the line. Players have the
responsibility of making sure the lines are in their correct positions
before each play unless there are multiple line judges whose job is to
verify line position.
You will see players snapping the lines often to straighten them in
tournaments and in pickup games you should be doing the same thing.
The court is rectangular and 52' 6" by 26' 3" and moving the lines
unintentionally does not not alter that parameter, however, if the
lines are not positioned correctly at the time of service then
wherever they are and whatever shape that results in does become the
de facto size of the court for that play or until such time as they
are once again correctly positioned.
I believe you will find that USAV, CBVA and the FIVB agree with the
above.
Mike
USAV certified official
Jersey Shore Volleyball Association Official Rules Interpreter |
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