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highlands hunter
Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:18 pm
 
How does the Ljungman AG42B stack up as a deer gun? Can I get a scope
for this rifle?

Thanks for your help.

Scott


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David R. Birch
Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:35 pm
 
highlands hunter wrote:
Quote:
How does the Ljungman AG42B stack up as a deer gun? Can I get a scope
for this rifle?

Thanks for your help.

Scott

Good flat shooting round in the 6.5x55. The rifle is long, heavy and
awkward to carry through the woods. I've never seen a commercial scope
mount for one, not a common enough rifle and the nature of the action
would make it difficult to design one.

Speaking of the action, the guillotine like bolt carrier makes M1
thumb look pleasant.

David
 
George
Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 1:13 am
 
There are better choices. It is a long firearm and unless the factory made
them capable of accepting a scope you will probably have a hard time
attaching optics. You could probably buy a bolt action for less, there are
two on Auctionarms.com and the higher priced one is in the $800 range, the
other is $275. 6.5 ammunition will be harder to fund than your usual hunting
cartridges. The folks at Wolfe publishing seem to consider it one of their
favorite cartridges and have written several articles on it's virtues.
George in Las Vegas


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Guest
Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 1:14 am
 
On Mar 28, 6:18 pm, highlands hunter <highlands_hun...@rogers.com>
wrote:
# How does the Ljungman AG42B stack up as a deer gun?  Can I get a scope
# for this rifle?
#
# Thanks for your help.
#
# Scott
#
The 6.5mm Swede round has a good rep as a game getter, but I question
your choice of rifles. The Ljungman is firmly in the realm of the
collectors, last one I saw was in the 4 figure arena. Any alterations
will severely detract from the value. I don't think there was a
sniper version of it made, scoping would probably involve fiddling
with the rear sight base. You will also find getting a 5 round
magazine rather futile, no one makes them. Cutting down an original
mag is always possible, but the last one I saw was over $100. If
you've just gotta have a 6.5 Swede rifle, there's a whole lot of
already sporterized Swedish Mausers out there for a fraction of what a
Ljungman is worth. If you have one, you could sell it and buy a
pretty fancy bolt action deer rig out of the proceeds. Ammo is
another factor. The Ljungman has no gas regulator, this means that
what you shoot needs to be close to bullet weight and pressure curve
of the issue ammo. Cheap surplus has long ago been shot up. So you
either handload or pay through the nose. It's an interesting design
to collect, but not really a practical item for use these days. Few
spares available, too.

Stan


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Giampingjack
Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 1:14 am
 
the 6,5 mm swedish I think, is ok for deer...
I'm a surplus gun collector...I can say that I never see a scope mount for
that surplus rifle ( from all costructors of this type of mount , for old
rifles)
a gunsmith certainly can made one for you...but a what expense....?
the liungman is a rare surplus rifle....not mass-produced like garands, m1
carbines or nagants ecc...for comparaison, note that here inb Italy You can
buy fromn gunshop a very good used semiauto rifle (bar browning, remington
7400) at 400/500 euros , sales tax included and a ag42b not less than 600
more frequently 750/800.a new winchester vulcan 860/920.
if you need a scope for yor game, sell your rifle to a collector and buy a
more appropate and scopable, rifle

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Dave Hinz
Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 4:42 pm
 
On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 11:14:21 +0000 (UTC), stans4@prolynx.com <stans4@prolynx.com> wrote:

# The 6.5mm Swede round has a good rep as a game getter, but I question
# your choice of rifles. The Ljungman is firmly in the realm of the
# collectors, last one I saw was in the 4 figure arena.

Really? That's fantasic news, I paid $400 or so for mine. Not that I
plan to sell any time soon but, still, the Swedes i've bought about a
dozen of seem to have been doing very well for value.



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Natman
Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 4:43 pm
 
On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 00:18:06 +0000 (UTC), highlands hunter
<highlands_hunter@rogers.com> wrote:

#How does the Ljungman AG42B stack up as a deer gun? Can I get a scope
#for this rifle?
#
#Thanks for your help.
#
#Scott
The only thing suitable for deer hunting about this rifle is the
cartridge. It's too heavy, too long and worth way too much to
collectors to consider altering.

If you want to go deer hunting, sell / retire the AG42B and get a nice
bolt action with a scope.


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Guest
Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 2:32 am
 
On Mar 29, 1:18 pm, highlands hunter <highlands_hun...@rogers.com>
wrote:
Quote:
...

The 6.5x55 is great for game - The Ljungman will do OK if you want to
use iron sights but I don't know about scoping it.
The 139 or 140 grain bullet out of a sporterized version of the bolt
action surplus Swede will be accurate, reliable, and great for
everything up to moose - the guys who say it's too small forget that
the relatively gutless 30-30 was used to kill lots and lots of game
before the hotter cartridges were developed.. Thing is - the 6.5 is a
tiny little hole and a 140 grain bullet is LONG... sectional density
counts too.
There's another tread starting up about the 6.5 in general. I was
converted to the 6.5 when I won a "military match" at my first gun
club with a surplus, un-modified 6.5 Swede by getting the smallest
group from the shoulder at 100, highest score at 100, and smallest
group at 100 - borrowed rifle, surplus ammo.
The ladder sights work well on the old military rifle - the one I
bought had a really pitted barrel, but would still shoot inside an
inch from a bench at 100.
I now use a scoped mauser swede for deer and so far none have required
a second shot.
W


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highlands hunter
Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 2:32 am
 
On Mar 29, 9:42 pm, Dave Hinz <DaveH...@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
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Thanks for the advice. Ljungman's are relatively common on the used
market here in Canada and sell for less than $400. Ellwood Epps in
Orillia often has the AG42B for sale (http://www.ellwoodepps.com/
used_RIFLE_PAGE_MILITARY2.asp). He has one for sale now for $379.

Cabela's does sell a B-squared mount for the Ljungman, but the
customer reviews are not great. Ammo is easy to come by off the
shelf, but can only be gotten in 140 gr.

Being a lefty its hard to come by bolt action rifles, which is usually
why I go for semi's or pump's. I may look into a Savage left-hand bolt
instead in .308.


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George
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:12 pm
 
# My friend bought one for $150 in Canada last year.
#

Could he bring it back on C&R license?
George in Las Vegas


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Dave Hinz
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 12:40 am
 
On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 02:12:42 +0000 (UTC), George <gkbiv@cox.net> wrote:
# # My friend bought one for $150 in Canada last year.

# Could he bring it back on C&R license?

No kidding. I'd take 10, sight-unseen, at that price.

Seriously.


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