"The Horny Goat" <lcraver@home.ca> wrote in message
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On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 14:29:09 -0700, "William Graham"
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Yes. At least mine puts the bodies on the floor somewhere. (usually the
bathroom floor) I had a friend whose cat used to leave the bird's feet on
his pillow........:^)

One of the defining moments of my teen years was when our cat brought
my mother a bird. It was 30 years ago and I still remember her
over-reaction even though she had had cats in her life since girlhood.

Yeah...I'm always afraid I will insult them if I don't show pleasure....After
all, they are giving you a gift to pay you back for all the food you give
them....When you go to the supermarket, I figure they think you are out
hunting....

My cat Zacky is an indoor/outdoor cat, and he's forever bringing home prey
that he catches. Every week or so, I'll come home and find a bloody
lifeless bird in my living room (and the room full of feathers!) Or a
lizard. Or a mouse. Or these really weird worms that are not snails or
slugs, but look like snails without their shell. He also brings in these
really huge grasshoppers and then torture them to death, leaving large
insect carcasses throughout the house. It's like living with a feline
serial murderer! Occasionally, I'll catch him as he's bringing in his
captive still alive and as yet unharmed. So I'll give him a stern NO,
take it from his mouth, and carry it outside to release it. This kind of
pisses him off, but I'm not sure what else to do.
I really want to discourage such behavior. Any ideas?

-Garret
garret at garretswayne dot com

"Garret Swayne" <garret@garretswayne.com> wrote in message
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My cat Zacky is an indoor/outdoor cat, and he's forever bringing home
prey that he catches. Every week or so, I'll come home and find a bloody
lifeless bird in my living room (and the room full of feathers!) Or a
lizard. Or a mouse. Or these really weird worms that are not snails or
slugs, but look like snails without their shell. He also brings in these
really huge grasshoppers and then torture them to death, leaving large
insect carcasses throughout the house. It's like living with a feline
serial murderer! Occasionally, I'll catch him as he's bringing in his
captive still alive and as yet unharmed. So I'll give him a stern NO,
take it from his mouth, and carry it outside to release it. This kind of
pisses him off, but I'm not sure what else to do.
I really want to discourage such behavior. Any ideas?

-Garret
garret at garretswayne dot com

I just read through this thread and the ignorance just amazes me. Read the
following and then do the right thing and keep your cat indoors where it
belongs.

http://www.wildliferescueleague.org/cats.html

http://www.abcbirds.org/cats/

Dave

I have read your articles, and I disagree 100%. Cats were created to roam,

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"Garret Swayne" <garret@garretswayne.com> wrote in message
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My cat Zacky is an indoor/outdoor cat, and he's forever bringing home
prey that he catches. Every week or so, I'll come home and find a
bloody lifeless bird in my living room (and the room full of feathers!)
Or a lizard. Or a mouse. Or these really weird worms that are not
snails or slugs, but look like snails without their shell. He also
brings in these really huge grasshoppers and then torture them to death,
leaving large insect carcasses throughout the house. It's like living
with a feline serial murderer! Occasionally, I'll catch him as he's
bringing in his captive still alive and as yet unharmed. So I'll give
him a stern NO, take it from his mouth, and carry it outside to release
it. This kind of pisses him off, but I'm not sure what else to do.
I really want to discourage such behavior. Any ideas?

-Garret
garret at garretswayne dot com

I just read through this thread and the ignorance just amazes me. Read
the following and then do the right thing and keep your cat indoors where
it belongs.

http://www.wildliferescueleague.org/cats.html

http://www.abcbirds.org/cats/

Dave

I have read your articles, and I disagree 100%. Cats were created to roam,
and I wouldn't keep one locked up indoors on a bet. Not only that, but if
"100's of millions of birds" are killed every year by cats, there must be
trillions of cats out there with no food to eat.....My four cats haven't
killed 1/2 dozen birds in the last 10 years. For one thing, birds are very
hard to kill....Snakes, lizards and field mice are much easier, and even
the feral cat lived on mice and voles for the first couple of years of his
life before we started feeding him.
But, when you get right down to it, birds are very low on the order of
life, and they are among the most heartless living things in existence. I
couldn't care less how many birds that my cats kill, to tell the truth.
Have you ever seen a bunch of chickens peck one of their number to
death? - If you had, you would gain a vastly different perspective on
birds. Sure, they are pretty....Some of them are downright beautiful. But
that doesn't make them any more compassionate than any other animal....
Your article greatly exaggerates the number of birds that fall prey to
outside cats.....It only serves as an excuse for teenagers (or those with
a teenage mentality) to kill cats.

birds. Sure, they are pretty....Some of them are downright beautiful.
But
that doesn't make them any more compassionate than any other animal....

You're a moron. Only good thing about youor cats being outside is they get
to get away from you.

to get away from you.

Dave
I am amazed and astounded by your incredible ability to argue your

I just read through this thread and the ignorance just
amazes me. Read the following and then do the right thing
and keep your cat indoors where it belongs.

"Dave F" <davegf@home.com> wrote in message
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[snip]

I just read through this thread and the ignorance just
amazes me. Read the following and then do the right thing
and keep your cat indoors where it belongs.

Sigh.. PLEASE let's not start this argument again. Cats are not naturally
indoor animals. No animals are.

"Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
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"Dave F" <davegf@home.com> wrote in message
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[snip]

I just read through this thread and the ignorance just
amazes me. Read the following and then do the right thing
and keep your cat indoors where it belongs.

Sigh.. PLEASE let's not start this argument again. Cats are not naturally
indoor animals. No animals are.


They are domesticated, you flaming fucking idiot, and belong indoors
now, unless you want them to have short miserable lives.

I had a bonehead friend who was as stupid as you are. She let her
cat outside in a busy city and never saw him again. I had no sympathy
for her, especially after the ignorant bitch said that she would rather
him
have a short lifespan and go outside than a long lifespan and stay in.

My indoor cats are so happy. Happy and fiesty and SAFE. They
sit in the screened windows and enjoy the birds and squirrels and
chipmunks and bugs and rabbits that would not be there if they
went out. They never try to get out. They have caught two mice
that came in, but they didn't eat them, why should they, cat food
is easier? So they didn't get any disease the mice happened to
carry.

It's 2007. It's not safe outside for ANYONE, but particularly
not for creatures with little cat brains.

Take your cats to a shelter. They are better off there.




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Don't bother with these "things".

"Dave F" <davegf@home.com> wrote in message
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[snip]

I just read through this thread and the ignorance just
amazes me. Read the following and then do the right thing
and keep your cat indoors where it belongs.

Sigh.. PLEASE let's not start this argument again. Cats are not naturally
indoor animals. No animals are.

Ivor


To me, it depends on where you live, and the circumstances....I have known

"Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
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"Dave F" <davegf@home.com> wrote in message
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[snip]

I just read through this thread and the ignorance just
amazes me. Read the following and then do the right thing
and keep your cat indoors where it belongs.

Sigh.. PLEASE let's not start this argument again. Cats are not naturally
indoor animals. No animals are.


They are domesticated, you flaming fucking idiot, and belong indoors
now, unless you want them to have short miserable lives.

I had a bonehead friend who was as stupid as you are. She let her
cat outside in a busy city and never saw him again. I had no sympathy
for her, especially after the ignorant bitch said that she would rather
him
have a short lifespan and go outside than a long lifespan and stay in.

My indoor cats are so happy. Happy and fiesty and SAFE. They
sit in the screened windows and enjoy the birds and squirrels and
chipmunks and bugs and rabbits that would not be there if they
went out. They never try to get out. They have caught two mice
that came in, but they didn't eat them, why should they, cat food
is easier? So they didn't get any disease the mice happened to
carry.

It's 2007. It's not safe outside for ANYONE, but particularly
not for creatures with little cat brains.

Take your cats to a shelter. They are better off there.

What's boneheaded is to believe that everyone lives in the same place,

"Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
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"Dave F" <davegf@home.com> wrote in message
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[snip]

I just read through this thread and the ignorance just
amazes me. Read the following and then do the right thing
and keep your cat indoors where it belongs.

Sigh.. PLEASE let's not start this argument again. Cats are not naturally
indoor animals. No animals are.


It's 2007. It's not safe outside for ANYONE, but particularly
not for creatures with little cat brains.

Take your cats to a shelter. They are better off there.

"Dave F" <davegf@home.com> wrote in message
birds. Sure, they are pretty....Some of them are downright beautiful. But
that doesn't make them any more compassionate than any other animal....

You're a moron. Only good thing about youor cats being outside is they get
to get away from you.

Then I must be a moron too. Much as I've disagreed with William in the
past, I have little disregard for birds too aside from the insects they
might eat. Try going down to the islands in Toronto sometime and see how
long it takes you to lose any consideration for birds. Trekking out to a
picnic table with the family means walking very carefully through the goose
shit. And don't forget to bring all the cleansers and paper towel, because
the picnic table will be saturated. They should all be shot, cooked and fed
to the homeless population in the city. Sitting out at your picnic table for
a few seconds means you'll get covered in pigeon shit. They're nothing more
than flying diapers. Any chance of enjoying the outdoors will inevitably be
ruined in minutes by birds. For the first ten years in my apartment, the
balcony was virtually unusable because of the pigeon shit. Cleaning the
balcony meant one day of usage and then be prepared to clean again.

Birds of all types should be hunted, shot, poisoned and everything else that
gets rid of them. So yeah, I'm a moron too.

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"Dave F" <davegf@home.com> wrote in message
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[snip]

I just read through this thread and the ignorance just
amazes me. Read the following and then do the right
thing and keep your cat indoors where it belongs.

Sigh.. PLEASE let's not start this argument again. Cats
are not naturally indoor animals. No animals are.


They are domesticated, you flaming fucking idiot, and
belong indoors now, unless you want them to have short miserable lives.