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Mark T.
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 7:12 pm
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I have an '84 Chrysler New Yorker and it appears to be leaning backwards.
Could it be a sign of weak coil springs or do I just need to replace the
rear shocks?
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Thanks in advance.
Rick Brandt
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 7:44 pm
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"Mark T." <wtrumbo@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
I have an '84 Chrysler New Yorker and it appears to be leaning backwards.
Could it be a sign of weak coil springs or do I just need to replace the
rear shocks?

Shocks are NOT what holds your car up. You need springs (unless they're
adjustable),
maxpower
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 8:18 pm
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"Rick Brandt" <rvtjbrandt@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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"Mark T." <wtrumbo@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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I have an '84 Chrysler New Yorker and it appears to be leaning backwards.
Could it be a sign of weak coil springs or do I just need to replace the
rear shocks?

Shocks are NOT what holds your car up. You need springs (unless they're
adjustable),


If this vehicle has the load leveling system it will hold the vehicle up. If
the system has a problem it will cause the system to drop in the back. This
system has its own pump and ride height switches that are supposed to
maintain proper ride height..

Glenn Beasley
Chrysler Tech
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Daniel J. Stern
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 8:38 pm
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On Mon, 21 Feb 2005, Mark T. wrote:

Quote:
I have an '84 Chrysler New Yorker and it appears to be leaning
backwards. Could it be a sign of weak coil springs or do I just need to
replace the rear shocks?

Definitely time for new springs (probably front *and* rear), probably time
for new shocks (front *and* rear).
Rick Brandt
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 8:48 pm
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"Rick Brandt" <rvtjbrandt@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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"Mark T." <wtrumbo@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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I have an '84 Chrysler New Yorker and it appears to be leaning backwards.
Could it be a sign of weak coil springs or do I just need to replace the
rear shocks?

Shocks are NOT what holds your car up. You need springs (unless they're
adjustable),


If this vehicle has the load leveling system it will hold the vehicle up. If
the system has a problem it will cause the system to drop in the back. This
system has its own pump and ride height switches that are supposed to
maintain proper ride height..

But on an 84 New Yorker?? I know some SUVs have that, but why would a luxo-boat
have such a system?
Daniel J. Stern
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:33 pm
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On Mon, 21 Feb 2005, Rick Brandt wrote:

Quote:
But on an 84 New Yorker?? I know some SUVs have that, but why would a
luxo-boat have such a system?

Air suspension was not available on the '84 New Yorker.
Warren Weber
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 11:33 pm
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"Mark T." <wtrumbo@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
I have an '84 Chrysler New Yorker and it appears to be leaning backwards.
Could it be a sign of weak coil springs or do I just need to replace the
rear shocks?
--
Thanks in advance.

Our 85 Eldorado had air shocks that were used to level car when back end
was loaded (people and gear) This had a air pump and worked automatically.
When the shocks went bad the rear end sagged. W W
Joe Pfeiffer
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 2:36 am
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"Rick Brandt" <rvtjbrandt@sbcglobal.net> writes:
Quote:

If this vehicle has the load leveling system it will hold the vehicle up. If
the system has a problem it will cause the system to drop in the back. This
system has its own pump and ride height switches that are supposed to
maintain proper ride height..

But on an 84 New Yorker?? I know some SUVs have that, but why would a luxo-boat
have such a system?

Because people would load up their luxo-barges with suitcases and take
a trip.

My '78 Newport had the load leveller (with some screwy kewl spelling
like Load-Levler or something) option when new (it doesn't now; the
pump failed due to an accident and a replacement could not be found,
so normal springs and shocks replaced it ten or fifteen years ago).
--
Joseph J. Pfeiffer, Jr., Ph.D. Phone -- (505) 646-1605
Department of Computer Science FAX -- (505) 646-1002
New Mexico State University http://www.cs.nmsu.edu/~pfeiffer
Lugnut
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 6:12 am
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"Mark T." <wtrumbo@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
I have an '84 Chrysler New Yorker and it appears to be leaning backwards.
Could it be a sign of weak coil springs or do I just need to replace the
rear shocks?
--
Thanks in advance.



Time to take Jimmy Hoffa out of the trunk.
Bob P
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 9:13 am
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"Mark T." <wtrumbo@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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I have an '84 Chrysler New Yorker and it appears to be leaning
backwards.
Could it be a sign of weak coil springs or do I just need to replace
the
rear shocks?

Shocks are NOT what holds your car up. You need springs (unless they're
adjustable),


If this vehicle has the load leveling system it will hold the vehicle up.
If
the system has a problem it will cause the system to drop in the back.
This
system has its own pump and ride height switches that are supposed to
maintain proper ride height..

But on an 84 New Yorker?? I know some SUVs have that, but why would a
luxo-boat have such a system?

I have a 2002 Olds Bravada SUV that has such an air suspensions system and
it sucks royally. I have to continually take it back to the dealer (under
warranty) as the rear end gets stuck up in the air and doesn't come back
down. They put on a new compressor 2-3 weeks ago and now it's back up in the
air again - this time the passenger side rear is higher than the drivers
side rear. If you look at the car from the front or rear, the car is
tilting. Why would this be - any comments on this. I am getting frustrated
and go back to the dealer again tomorrow. Thanks for any help or comments.

Bob P.
Art
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:49 am
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Time for arbitration. Check the back of your warranty manual for
instructions. When you threaten a buyback I bet they figure out how to fix
it.


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"Mark T." <wtrumbo@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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I have an '84 Chrysler New Yorker and it appears to be leaning
backwards.
Could it be a sign of weak coil springs or do I just need to replace
the
rear shocks?

Shocks are NOT what holds your car up. You need springs (unless
they're
adjustable),


If this vehicle has the load leveling system it will hold the vehicle
up. If
the system has a problem it will cause the system to drop in the back.
This
system has its own pump and ride height switches that are supposed to
maintain proper ride height..

But on an 84 New Yorker?? I know some SUVs have that, but why would a
luxo-boat have such a system?

I have a 2002 Olds Bravada SUV that has such an air suspensions system and
it sucks royally. I have to continually take it back to the dealer (under
warranty) as the rear end gets stuck up in the air and doesn't come back
down. They put on a new compressor 2-3 weeks ago and now it's back up in
the air again - this time the passenger side rear is higher than the
drivers side rear. If you look at the car from the front or rear, the car
is tilting. Why would this be - any comments on this. I am getting
frustrated and go back to the dealer again tomorrow. Thanks for any help
or comments.

Bob P.
Steve
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 12:07 pm
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Quote:

I have a 2002 Olds Bravada SUV that has such an air suspensions system and
it sucks royally. I have to continually take it back to the dealer (under
warranty) as the rear end gets stuck up in the air and doesn't come back
down.

Odd, that's one thing that GM actually got right a long time ago and I
wouldn't have expected trouble from it. My folks had an 84 Cadillac
Sedan DeVille, and the level-ride system was bulletproof. Of course that
car was an oddity all around- it had the notorious HT4100 time-bomb
engine and the notorious TH200R4 transmision, and yet merrily ran up to
>130,000 miles and they still see it around town years after selling it.
Joe Pfeiffer
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 2:14 pm
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Steve <no@spam.thanks> writes:

Quote:
I have a 2002 Olds Bravada SUV that has such an air suspensions
system and it sucks royally. I have to continually take it back to
the dealer (under warranty) as the rear end gets stuck up in the air
and doesn't come back down.

Odd, that's one thing that GM actually got right a long time ago and I
wouldn't have expected trouble from it. My folks had an 84 Cadillac
Sedan DeVille, and the level-ride system was bulletproof. Of course
that car was an oddity all around- it had the notorious HT4100
time-bomb engine and the notorious TH200R4 transmision, and yet
merrily ran up to >130,000 miles and they still see it around town
years after selling it.

And, the pump for my Newport was a Delco. I wouldn't be surprised
to learn the whole system was bought from GM.
--
Joseph J. Pfeiffer, Jr., Ph.D. Phone -- (505) 646-1605
Department of Computer Science FAX -- (505) 646-1002
New Mexico State University http://www.cs.nmsu.edu/~pfeiffer
Daniel J. Stern
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 4:32 pm
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On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:

Quote:
And, the pump for my Newport was a Delco. I wouldn't be surprised to
learn the whole system was bought from GM.

I wouldn't be surprised to learn the pump on your Newport could be
replaced by the pump from any of the '90s AC-body cars ("Imperial",
"Dynasty") with the levelling system.
Joe Pfeiffer
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 5:50 pm
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"Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@127.0.0.1> writes:

Quote:
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:

And, the pump for my Newport was a Delco. I wouldn't be surprised to
learn the whole system was bought from GM.

I wouldn't be surprised to learn the pump on your Newport could be
replaced by the pump from any of the '90s AC-body cars ("Imperial",
"Dynasty") with the levelling system.

They switched from a vacuum-powered pump with the height sensor
opening and closing valves to an electric pump before that, so it
would involve a complete retrofit.

In another forum, we were discussing my front suspension. It occurs
to me that I think I now know what incident led to my left lower
control arm being replaced... I knew the vacuum powered pump (which
was located in the left front fender) was knocked, and Dad spent quite
a while trying to find a replacement, I don't remember him mentioning
the LCA.
--
Joseph J. Pfeiffer, Jr., Ph.D. Phone -- (505) 646-1605
Department of Computer Science FAX -- (505) 646-1002
New Mexico State University http://www.cs.nmsu.edu/~pfeiffer
 
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