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The Cunning Linguist :Þ
Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 7:10 pm
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Are Animals Being Euthanized?

There are erroneous rumors spreading on the Internet that animals in
Louisiana are being euthanized en masse. This is absolutely false. Why would
anybody expend so much effort to rescue these animals only to turn around
and euthanize them? A few animals have been euthanized because of severe
health problems. The decision to euthanize is taken by the veterinarians who
are treating the animals at the facility.

Currently, the disposition of the animals-as well as the ability of
veterinarians to practice on site-is determined solely at the discretion of
the Louisiana state veterinarian. Similarly, animals who require euthanasia
in Mississippi or any temporary animal shelter/holding facility in the Gulf
Coast disaster area will only be euthanized after a veterinarian has
determined that it is the best course of action for that animal.

Misinformation about access to the Gonzales facility and the care the
animals are receiving is being posted on certain websites. If you want to
help animals get the desperate attention they need, please do not forward
such rumors to The HSUS. Receiving and responding to rumors is a waste of
our scarce human resources at our Headquarters and in the field who are
focused solely on saving animals' lives.
alpha©
Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 7:17 am
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On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 00:10:05 GMT, "The Cunning Linguist :Þ"
<the_witchboy@yahooX.com> wrote:

Quote:
Are Animals Being Euthanized?

There are erroneous rumors spreading on the Internet that animals in
Louisiana are being euthanized en masse. This is absolutely false. Why would
anybody expend so much effort to rescue these animals only to turn around
and euthanize them? A few animals have been euthanized because of severe
health problems. The decision to euthanize is taken by the veterinarians who
are treating the animals at the facility.

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I agree 100%. There is an overabundance of miss-information about the
pet rescue. Last weekend we saw the many rescue organizations in
action.

We had the opportunity to volunteer last weekend at the Lamar-Dixon
Expo center and what we saw was many, many, rescued pets that were
being vet checked, cleaned, vaccinated, micro chipped, crated, fed and
watered.

Each barn was then assigned volunteers who would clean the crates,
walk the dogs, feed and water.

The pets were resting comfortably and responding to those of us
helping out.

The many organizations working together were doing a great job in
helping those animals out.

I've posted a narrative and photos of the Gonzales, LA effort on our
web site. http://alspaugh.org Click on the Red Katrina Pet Rescue at
the top of the page.
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Daniel Ganek
Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:48 pm
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Barrnabas Collins wrote:
Quote:
On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 00:10:05 GMT, "The Cunning Linguist :Þ"
the_witchboy@yahooX.com> wrote:


There are erroneous rumors spreading on the Internet that animals in
Louisiana are being euthanized en masse.

There are an estimated 60,000+ homeless pets in the region, some
are working feverishly to rescue them. I have heard of no RELIABLE
reports of aniamls being euthanized. (That being said who knows how
many were killed by the storm. Hopefully like the Tsumami the
animals sensed the disaster coming and fled the danger. As a result
very few animals died in the Tsunami.)
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The animals that fled in the tsunami were wild animals. I seriously
doubt that very many pets fled in NO. Also note that the flooding was
due to the breaks in the levees not the storm. The animals wouldn't
have sense that.

/dan
Barrnabas Collins
Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:27 pm
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On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 13:48:41 -0400, Daniel Ganek <ganek@comcast.net>
wrote:

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The animals that fled in the tsunami were wild animals. I seriously
doubt that very many pets fled in NO. Also note that the flooding was
due to the breaks in the levees not the storm. The animals wouldn't
have sense that.
Wrong. Much of the flooding and damage occurred when

the tidal surge from a CATEGORY 5 HURRICANE hit the Louisianna/
Alabama/Mississippi/ coast. The Levee birak only compounded the
problem. It was the tidal surge that desimated
Lousianna/Mississippi/Alabama. Go read up on Category 5 storms
and pay particular attention to the section Tidal Surge.

As far as animals who died, it is too earyl to tell. (With the
Tsunami we know the animals survived after the flood
water receeded. It will be a long time bofore the flood water
receed in sections of the gulf coast.

..I would add animals have an amazing instinct for survival.
It is belived that 60,000+ animals have survived and are now
homeless.
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Cat Protector
Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:48 pm
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Actually from one rescuer I have heard from says that this may be true. The
HSUS according to what this rescuer said, is telling everyone they are in
charge down there in New Orleans. The truth is, there appears to be chaos
and disorganization. The rescue groups seem to be also meeting a lot of red
tape as well which is hindering rescue efforts.

There are many organizations working down there in the affected areas not
just one organization. The Louisiana SPCA is supposed to be in charge of
rescue efforts not HSUS. HSUS is merely assisting not leading the rescuer
efforts. The euthanizing of animals from what I have heard is possibly
happening to make room for other animals as it has been said there is not
enough room at these emergency rescue shelters. I am not sure what is
accurate but I can somehow see how this might happen.



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"The Cunning Linguist :Þ" <the_witchboy@yahooX.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Are Animals Being Euthanized?

There are erroneous rumors spreading on the Internet that animals in
Louisiana are being euthanized en masse. This is absolutely false. Why
would
anybody expend so much effort to rescue these animals only to turn around
and euthanize them? A few animals have been euthanized because of severe
health problems. The decision to euthanize is taken by the veterinarians
who
are treating the animals at the facility.

Currently, the disposition of the animals-as well as the ability of
veterinarians to practice on site-is determined solely at the discretion
of
the Louisiana state veterinarian. Similarly, animals who require
euthanasia
in Mississippi or any temporary animal shelter/holding facility in the
Gulf
Coast disaster area will only be euthanized after a veterinarian has
determined that it is the best course of action for that animal.

Misinformation about access to the Gonzales facility and the care the
animals are receiving is being posted on certain websites. If you want to
help animals get the desperate attention they need, please do not forward
such rumors to The HSUS. Receiving and responding to rumors is a waste of
our scarce human resources at our Headquarters and in the field who are
focused solely on saving animals' lives.

No More Retail
Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:31 pm
Guest
All I can say is pray to what ever form of god or higher power you believe
in for the safety recovery of our four legged friends

All I know is that I see all the advertising to help humans and not the
Humane society. Every one needs to call their local TV station, radio
station and whatever form of public advertising to ask the to broadcast the
urgent need there is

I live in Florida near Orlando and we have a great person the runs Pet
rescue by Judy every animal that comes in to her care get adopted
immediately and right now there is a high demand for adoption for the
Katrina animal survivors
Cat Protector
Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:14 pm
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Actually, I did a PSA for Alley Cat Allies and the ASPCA regarding the
animal victims of Katrina that has played on a number of Internet and
terrestrial radio stations. So advertising is out there. The PSA is
downloadable via the Cat Galaxy Web Site and we hope many pass it on. You
can find it at www.catgalaxymedia.com.

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Quote:
All I can say is pray to what ever form of god or higher power you believe
in for the safety recovery of our four legged friends

All I know is that I see all the advertising to help humans and not the
Humane society. Every one needs to call their local TV station, radio
station and whatever form of public advertising to ask the to broadcast
the urgent need there is

I live in Florida near Orlando and we have a great person the runs Pet
rescue by Judy every animal that comes in to her care get adopted
immediately and right now there is a high demand for adoption for the
Katrina animal survivors
No More Retail
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 12:00 am
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That was not directly directed at you just at the whole situation Smile
Cat Protector
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:00 am
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Well the whole situation is pretty much politics.

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That was not directly directed at you just at the whole situation Smile
The Cunning Linguist :Þ
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 8:29 am
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"Cat Protector" <catprotector@cox.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
Actually from one rescuer I have heard from says that this may be true.
The
HSUS according to what this rescuer said, is telling everyone they are in
charge down there in New Orleans. The truth is, there appears to be chaos
and disorganization. The rescue groups seem to be also meeting a lot of
red
tape as well which is hindering rescue efforts.

There are many organizations working down there in the affected areas not
just one organization. The Louisiana SPCA is supposed to be in charge of
rescue efforts not HSUS. HSUS is merely assisting not leading the rescuer
efforts. The euthanizing of animals from what I have heard is possibly
happening to make room for other animals as it has been said there is not
enough room at these emergency rescue shelters. I am not sure what is
accurate but I can somehow see how this might happen.

This is the kind of irresponsible rumor mongering that is negatively
affecting the rescue efforts. There are many rescue groups working together
to save the animal victims of this tragedy.
Only the sickest and most gravely injured animals are being euthanized and
then only under the orders of a veterinarian. There was an issue with the
Gonzales rescue center becoming full but the animal rescue organizations
worked with the state authorities and got permission to ship the animals to
shelters in other areas. Many of them are going to a large shelter in
Houston.
Whether you personally like a given organization should not matter in this
time of crisis. Hundreds of people are desperately working under
unimaginable conditions to save the animals that are left before the clock
runs out. If you can't support them, the very least you should do is not
hinder them.
Barrnabas Collins
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:43 am
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On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 19:48:07 -0700, "Cat Protector"
<catprotector@cox.net> wrote:

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Actually from one rescuer I have heard from says that this may be true.
One thing needs to be kept in mind through all this......

I don't want to see any animal euthanized but many will
have to be by virtue of the fasct that they drank/came in
contact with water that is a toxic waste site. I hate the
idea of euthanizing the animals but I also fear how
ill these cats will become in the coming years. Any animal
who comes in contact with the water in the New Orleans
area will not have a good result. The fact remains that
any water in the region is now mixed with sewage,
gas, oil, and who knows how many other toxix chemicals.
As much as I hate the idea of euthanizing these aniamls
the toxic sludge in the water is going to wreak havoc on the
health of these animals.

I wouldn't be surprised if we learn a few months
down the road that most of the 60,000 homeless pets
have to be put to sleep. After all the alternative may
be watching as these animals suffer incredible pain
related to the contact with this toxic sludge that is
in the water.

The bottom line is now in the wake of Kartrina the
region is a toxic waste dump and any living creature
is in danger.

Just think of what these beloed pets are
going to suffer 15+ years down the road
because they came in contact with/ingested
this toxix sludge called water that is covering
New Orleans.
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Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:56 am
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On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 13:29:59 GMT, "The Cunning Linguist :Þ"
<the_witchboy@yahooX.com> wrote:

Quote:
This is the kind of irresponsible rumor mongering that is negatively
affecting the rescue efforts. There are many rescue groups working together
to save the animal victims of this tragedy.
IMHO the point to take away from this is Katrina is an unprecedented

tragedy. See my previous post.

The bottom line is as much as I hate the idea of putting an animal to
sleep the final resut ten - fiftteen years down the road may be that
any animal left after the tital surge may have to be put to sleep for
hamane reasons.....just think of the extremely painful ailments these
animals are going to go through in 15+ years as a result of the
contact with the toxic waste in the water.

I don't want to put any animals to sleep but I also don't want
to see any pets experiencing insuffarable pain when they
come down with devastating disease. AND MAKE NO MISTAKE
ABOUT. ANIMALS WILL INEVITABLY COME DOWN WITH SOME
DEVASTATING DISEASE AS A RESULT OF COMING IN CONTACT
WITH THE TOXIC SLUDGE IN THE WATER.

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Barrnabas Collins
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 11:03 am
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On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 13:29:59 GMT, "The Cunning Linguist :Þ"
<the_witchboy@yahooX.com> wrote:
Quote:
Only the sickest and most gravely injured animals are being euthanized and
then only under the orders of a veterinarian.
How many of these animals are going to be sick and with

symptoms that only manifest themselves 15+ years down
road.

Just because an animal looks fine now doesn't mean
they won't come down with some ailment related
to Katrina 15+ years down the road.

So yeah it may be 15-30 years before we know the true
impact of Katrina.

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Cat Protector
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:03 pm
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Is it rumor really? The Humane Society from what I know does practice
euthanasia. Even here in Phoenix during the height of cat and kitten season
said that unless they can adopt out the many cats and kittens brought into
their shelter that they would euthanize.

The latest from the PAWS Web Site in Chicago said the following.

"The Next PAWS Chicago Katrina Rescue Mission
In approximately two weeks we will be conducting our third and largest
rescue mission to date when the quarantine in Louisiana and Mississippi are
over. Most animals will be euthanized in these shelters if rescue groups
don't take them out. We will need as many volunteers as possible at that
time. Due to the health risks in these areas, volunteers will need updated
vaccinations."

If you noticed, this one lends support to the fact that unless people come
to get their animals in Gonzales, they would be euthanized to make room for
others.

One of the problems with this whole thing is the fact that there is some
political involved. Rescue groups seem to be running into a lot of red tape
from the government. Rescue organizations apparently ran into one excuse
after the other and all they wanted to do was rescue the animals.




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"The Cunning Linguist :Þ" <the_witchboy@yahooX.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
This is the kind of irresponsible rumor mongering that is negatively
affecting the rescue efforts. There are many rescue groups working
together
to save the animal victims of this tragedy.
Only the sickest and most gravely injured animals are being euthanized and
then only under the orders of a veterinarian. There was an issue with the
Gonzales rescue center becoming full but the animal rescue organizations
worked with the state authorities and got permission to ship the animals
to
shelters in other areas. Many of them are going to a large shelter in
Houston.
Whether you personally like a given organization should not matter in this
time of crisis. Hundreds of people are desperately working under
unimaginable conditions to save the animals that are left before the clock
runs out. If you can't support them, the very least you should do is not
hinder them.

No More Retail
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:50 pm
Guest
That is real funny considering that according to the HSUS own email the only
animal being put to sleep are the extremely sick and the extremely
aggressive. If phoenix is putting to sleep animals then is sounds like
someone needs to stand up and get the shelters to be a no kill shelter like
here in Florida does. There is a demand for the animals survivors here in
Florida

This is from HSUS site it self
Are Animals Being Euthanized?

There are erroneous rumors spreading on the Internet that animals in
Louisiana are being euthanized en masse. This is absolutely false. Why would
anybody expend so much effort to rescue these animals only to turn around
and euthanize them? A few animals have been euthanized because of severe
health problems. The decision to euthanize is taken by the veterinarians who
are treating the animals at the facility.

Currently, the disposition of the animals-as well as the ability of
veterinarians to practice on site-is determined solely at the discretion of
the Louisiana state veterinarian. Similarly, animals who require euthanasia
in Mississippi or any temporary animal shelter/holding facility in the Gulf
Coast disaster area will only be euthanized after a veterinarian has
determined that it is the best course of action for that animal.

Misinformation about access to the Gonzales facility and the care the
animals are receiving is being posted on certain websites. If you want to
help animals get the desperate attention they need, please do not forward
such rumors to The HSUS. Receiving and responding to rumors is a waste of
our scarce human resources at our Headquarters and in the field who are
focused solely on saving animals' lives.



What Should I Do About Rumors?

In a situation as enormous and fast paced as this disaster, information is
being distributed rapidly and-on occasion-recklessly. Rumors are flying. It
is impossible for us to respond to what other animal welfare groups are
saying or doing, or to the misinformation and hearsay that individuals are
spreading through other websites and chat rooms.

We are updating information as quickly as we can, so please help us in our
disaster efforts by referring to www.hsus.org for accurate information and
to find out what you can do to help. Frequent visits to our website-instead
of emailing us unless absolutely necessary-will allow our staff to devote
themselves to the most pressing animal care and rescue needs.

The help that we need now is for the State of Louisiana to support our
efforts. For people who are not directly involved in and helping to
coordinate rescue efforts, the best thing you can do is to call Governor
Kathleen Babineaux Blanco 1-866-310-7617. Ask her office to do everything it
can to support the animal rescue effort.
 
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