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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:25 am

Terrence Briggs

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:25 am

Guest

Abraham Evangelista (afedaken) wrote [of Corpse Bride]:

<snip>

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Are Tim Burton's films still done with traditional stop motion
animation, or was this a CG film?

Stop Mo, though I'm sure the Will Vintons of the world crapped their
pants when they saw what Pixar was doing with the computer. Pretty
soon, CG Stop Mo will be sophisticated enough to fool seasoned pros.

Terrence Briggs, noting how Jim Henson's troops probably scared
themselves looking at Monsters, Inc.

Terrence Briggs

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:25 am

Guest

Juan F. Lara wrote:

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Information taken from Brandon Gray's
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/

2 23 The Corpse Bride $19,145,480 +4,832.3% 3,204 +3,199 $5,975 $19,656,451
24 17 Valiant $322,782 -55.4% 541 -408 $596 $18,855,124
26 28 Madagascar $241,883 -11.4% 323 -1 $748 $192,664,956
99 101 Howl's Moving Castle $4,265 -8.1% 14 +3 $304 $4,705,184

A pretty good wide release debut for "The Corpse Bride", along with a
strong rating at rottentomatoes.com. Heck, it's already made more money than
"Valiant".

A sponge movie could have made more money than "Valiant".

Laugh like you know: One did! And in about 12 hours, to boot. And how
about those penguins? The live-action ones, anyway, though the
animated ones in Madagascar were popular enoguh to get their own short
in the Wallace & Grommit feature. Maybe it'll wind up on the
Madagascar DVD release (which, if anyone at Dreamworks is educated by
now, will not be be sullied by overestimated sales forecasts).

Corpse Bride had a pretty sharp dropoff (49%) this Ocotber 1-2 weekend,
though. I believe that Nightmare Before Christmas performed better
in that respect.

And no, I haven't seen it yet. I may do a two-fer with the Wallace &
Grommit feature.

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- Juan F. Lara
http://bellsouthpwp.net/l/a/lara6281/intro.html

Terrence Briggs, finally saw Dumbo last month. Watching Citizen Kane
on the bus tomorrow. Stealing Richard Roeper's seat in the balcony
sometime next decade.

Derek Janssen

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:25 am

Guest

Juan F. Lara wrote:

Quote:

Information taken from Brandon Gray's
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/

8 Valiant $5,914,722 2,014 $2,936 $5,914,722
27 24 Madagascar $251,782 -23.7% 363 +36 $693 $190,252,852
60 60 Howl's Moving Castle $19,386 -22.0% 25 -5 $775 $4,612,726
78 72 Robots $7,624 -29.5% 27 -12 $282 $128,187,251

The Valiant effort turned out even weaker than we thought. The actual box
office was only $5,9M, putting "Valiant" at 8 instead of 7. Falling behind
"The Dukes of Hazzard" was insult added to injury.

(And falling three places behind other current parents-w/kids favorite
"March of the Penguins" drove the injury home.)

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Speaking of insults,
"Valiant" flopped with critics at Rotten Tomatoes.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/valiant/

- "Apart from the puns and regurgitation jokes, the story of a group of
carrier pigeons on a death-defying mission in 1944 Europe will fly over
the heads of actual youngsters."
Kyle Smith, NEW YORK POST
- "Despite a handful of good aerial 'birdfight' sequences, 'Valiant'
fails to get off the ground due to a by-numbers script and dodo-ugly
character design..."
- "The CG is on the rubbery side, and the backdrops are jarringly 2-D.
But Valiant isn't so hard to look at -- it's hard to listen to."
Scott Brown, ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY
- "The thought of this motley crew in the recording studio, laying down
vocal tracks and cracking each other up, is far more entertaining than
anything in the film."
Ty Burr, BOSTON GLOBE
- "People who liked the Shrek flicks may actually try to prove their
sophistication amongst themselves by rejecting this pale imitation of an
embarrassing cultural artifact."
Walter Chaw, FILM FREAK CENTRAL
- "Too inoffensive to engender the hostility once reserved for Howard
the Duck."
Mike Clark, USA TODAY
- "So $40M will buy you a film good enough for cable...well, that's
depressing."
John Venable, SUPERCALA.COM

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I heard that "Valiant" cost only $40 Million to make. But I wonder if it's
going to be able to make even half that at the U.S. boxoffice. I also found
out that the film already flopped in Europe, even in its own domestic market,
the United Kingdom.

Too bad more people hadn't heard of it (although the trailers were all
over the place three months ahead of time) as Disney was, often
deceptively, promoting its appeal as "A little piece o' Dreamworks"--
And unfortunately, that seems to be the audience reaction they'd gotten.

If it'd gotten a little *more* high-profile flop, though, it COULD've
gone down as the universal poster child for Why We're Freakin' Sick of
Sitcom-CGI, and helped deliver the End is Near message to a certain
one-trick-pony Mr. Katzenberg, who we hear has already got troubles of
his own...

Derek Janssen
djanss@charter.net

Juan F. Lara

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:25 am

Guest

In article <1124679816.615161.325390@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
Terrence Briggs <mrman1mrman1@lycos.com> wrote:

Quote:

Valiant drops a turd this weekend at the b.o.

Valiant
$6,090,000 on 2,014 screens
$3,023 per screen

Ouch. Of course, I forgot it was even coming out until Thursday Smile

On the other hand, I heard that "Valiant" cost only about $40 Million to
make. And how well did it already do in Europe?

- Juan F. Lara

Juan F. Lara

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:25 am

Guest

In article <BF292E09.26A50%jaysabicer@earthlink.net>,
Jay Sabicer <jaysabicer@earthlink.net> wrote:

Quote:

in article y_LMe.6843$rc6.3237@fe03.lga, Derek Janssen at
djanss@nospam.charter.net wrote on 8/17/05 3:20 PM:
...And why do certain Paul Winchell cartoon themes always spring to mind
whenever I see the trailer? ;)

Not having seen the trailer, I can't confirm or deny the existence of oddly
designed airplanes chasing the pigeons.

Get that pigeon, get that pigeon....

Ah, that show. Smile

I always forget that Paul Winchell played Dick
Dastardly and think that Don Messick played him instead. That's why I didn't
get the ref. Also, I think "Flying Machines" was set during World War I, not
World War II?

Captain Nerd

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:25 am

Guest

In article <PZQMe.36850$_41.2883@fe02.lga>,
Derek Janssen <djanss@nospam.charter.net> wrote:

Quote:

Captain Nerd wrote:

["Valiant"]

...And why do certain Paul Winchell cartoon themes always spring to mind
whenever I see the trailer?

Um, I don't get your reference.

...Ask somebody over 30. Wink

(helping the 70's Saturday-morning deprived)

Well, I'm over 40 and you lost me altogether!

I know who Paul Winchell was, but what shows themes are you thinking
of?

Chalk it up to premature senior moment...

sigh> Never mind, I'll save the jokes about carrier pigeons till the
movie comes out. :/

Yeah, well, whatever floats your boat. *I'm* not the one nearly
veering into nonsequitur Ethanspace...

Cap.

--
Since 1989, recycling old jokes, cliches, and bad puns, one Usenet
post at a time!
Operation: Nerdwatch http://www.nerdwatch.com
Only email with "TO_CAP" somewhere in the subject has a chance of being read

Derek Janssen

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:25 am

Guest

Captain Nerd wrote:

Quote:

["Valiant"]

...And why do certain Paul Winchell cartoon themes always spring to mind
whenever I see the trailer?

Um, I don't get your reference.

...Ask somebody over 30. Wink

<sigh> Never mind, I'll save the jokes about carrier pigeons till the
movie comes out. :/

Derek Janssen (as well as any tie-in jokes about "stopping" Dreamworks
imitators for their own good)
djanss@charter.net

Derek Janssen

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:25 am

Guest

Juan F. Lara wrote:

Quote:

"Valiant" opens this Friday. Let's see how well that film will do.

....And why do certain Paul Winchell cartoon themes always spring to mind
whenever I see the trailer? ;)

Derek Janssen
djanss@charter.net

Derek Janssen

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:25 am

Guest

Terrence Briggs wrote:

Quote:

And how about those penguins?

(What, the ones rescued from "Rockumentary"--after a certain fab band
wouldn't play nice with the music rights--and dropped into the middle of
"Madagascar" as a footnote...And now hope to be the out-of-context
cult-marketable Scrat of Dreamworks, just to pay the rest of the movie's
franchise bills?)

Quote:

though the
animated ones in Madagascar were popular enoguh to get their own short
in the Wallace & Grommit feature.

And enough to last-minute convince Dreamworks they had a "second
franchise", unquote (seeing as the sad truth about "Shark Tale" may
finally be penetrating the walls of granite) and to borrow an idea for
how to squeeze money off of what was going to..

Quote:

wind up on the Madagascar DVD release

....anyway.
(Following Pixar's lead, of course, and only gritting their teeth about
admitting that Nick Park OWNS DW's entire non-Shrek future for the
next six years.)

Quote:

(which, if anyone at Dreamworks is educated by
now, will not be be sullied by overestimated sales forecasts).

Y'know, someday DW will LEARN the difference between why regular people
go to movies during a particular season, and why they buy DVD's
permanently?...
It won't help cure their movies, but at least we won't get all this
whining after the fact.

Derek Janssen
djanss@charter.net

Patrick Joseph Mc Namara

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:25 am

Guest

"Terrence Briggs" <mrman1mrman1@lycos.com> wrote in message

Quote:

Terrence Briggs, noting how Jim Henson's troops probably scared
themselves looking at Monsters, Inc.

Henson was playing with motion capture CG back when they were doing Henson
Hour. I think they realized then that it was going to take over the field.
But there's still a place for puppetry in limited use. It's still cheaper
and easier to use a puppet than CG. And it still makes more sense to use
puppets for Sesame Street than CG characters.

Steve Dufour

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:25 am

Guest

roger gonnet wrote:

Quote:

Walt Disney had published its "Notre Dame de Paris". The whole
scenario is
derived from Victor Hugo work.

I've not seen one word reminding the autorship (I saw it years ago,
but it
struck me).
Did Disney people believe they were the creators of that scenario, or
did they
want to avoid reminding they were not the storytellers?

Hi Roger. I've never seen that movie. I guess I should and check out
if they gave credit to M. Hugo or not. Have a nice day. -Steve

Quote:

Scientology uses some artworks to sell better its scam services. I've
not seen
scientology reminding who was their author.

Exemple; Impact 48, page 6. Scientology is using M.C.
Escher famous "Night and Day" engraving, but does not ack its
authorship.
True enough, Escher was not a scientologist...
But at the end of the page, the usual "copyright" is... copyright c
1993, FSSO.
Therefore we must think that Escher's works are now scientology
property!

r

Terrence Briggs

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:25 am

Guest

Dave Baranyi wrote:

Quote:

"Widya Santoso" <wsantoso@nyx.net> wrote in message
news:1122192857.296415@irys.nyx.net...
"Dave Baranyi" <a_nospam.b_nospam@sym_nos_p_am_atico.ca> writes:

Hey! You came back too soon! The FMA movie starts this weekend! If I
hadn't
just bought a new car I might have been tempted to take a cheap flight to
Tokyo just to see it...<g

Dave Baranyi

(Don't think that I wasn't considering that for real for a little bit...)

Was your wife and daughter privvy to such discussion?

I mentioned it to my wife after I took delivery of the car. She's used to my
eccentricities and knows that I (usually) don't make really big decisions
without her being part of the process. For instance, I did take her along to
test drive the new car (a C230 Sports Coupe in "Mars Red") before I bought
it. <g

But let me tell you, if somebody at work needs to visit the Tokyo office
during the next few weeks, I'm definitely volunteering. <L

FMA = Full Metal Alchemist, ne?

It's a lock that the movie will get a North American DVD release:
unedited, with subtitles. I'd wait for it.

But hey, you seem to dig impulse decisions :)

Quote:

Dave Baranyi

Terrence Briggs, who just RETURNED one of his impulse decisions to the
local electronics store. What the bloody heck do I do with a $105 DVD
Recorder budget anyway? (Oh yeah ... wait.)
Peace to you...

Derek Janssen

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:25 am

Guest

Juan F. Lara wrote:

Quote:

Ah, the NightmareBeforeChristmasSaurus, that they tried to revive and
replicate from fragments of DNA...

Not really. "The Nightmare Before Christmas" was more like an opera than
a production musical. The singing was nearly constant in that movie.

("Danny Elfman with lyrics" *was* the true star of that movie--
There was some Burton guy, but he only deserved second billing.)

Quote:

I also
don't recall any annoying sidekicks in "Nightmare". In contrast "The Corpse
Bride" felt like one of the standard production musicals that Ashman and Menken
did well from "The Little Mermaid" to "Aladdin", and then Disney repeatedly did
much too often after Ashman died.

Also, NBX *started* from Tim and Danny's ideas, whereas "Corpse" had
begun as animator Mike Johnson's own solo project that got a forced Tim
(and Danny, and John August, *and* Caroline Thompson, AND everyone else
who'd ever worked with Tim in his life, except for Henry Selick who was
busy, but don't think they didn't try to get him, too) transplant at
Warner gunpoint when they heard the words "Halloween-themed stop-motion"
and wanted THEIR own Nightmare 2...

....Thus demonstrating the problems of tinkering with movie nature.

Derek Janssen (they tampered in God's domain)
djanss@charter.net

Derek Janssen

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:25 am

Guest

Juan F. Lara wrote:

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But I didn't like the story. The first part was all about haggling over
arranged marriages, about appropriate behavior, marriage etiquette, yawn. I
wondered if kids were getting bored with these dull topics. Emily the corpse
bride had no personality at all. She just walked through the film, giving
little idea as to what her motivations and feelings are. Also, I didn't know
beforehand that this was a production musical. With long unnecessary
production numbers ( the song Emily has about herself and the song right before
the dead rise up especially are big wastes of time ). Emily even has an
annoying sidekick! This movie then came off like a dinosaur thawed out from
the early 90's.

Ah, the NightmareBeforeChristmasSaurus, that they tried to revive and
replicate from fragments of DNA...

Derek Janssen (life always finds a way)
djanss@charter.net

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