Odo 5435 wrote:

Miyazaki himself prefers dubbed versions of his films as he feels
the subtitles detract from the animation. But having only ever
seen dubbed versions it would be nice to make my own comparison.
Dubbed animation generally works better than in live action films
as lip syncing is not so great a problem.

I don't really understand this, because I cannot stand watching a
dubbed version of a foreign language movie. If the director has
gone through the trouble of finding appropriate actors for the
movie, why abandon them for second-rate foreign actors,

especially since they usually make the dialogue sound corny,

Well, since Miyazaki animated "The Hobbit", one of the
earliest Japanimation flicks,

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Robinsons <wrob@erols.com> wrote:

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It's (the Hobbit) basically a crossover of some sort.

I suppose you will say this makes the animated _ROTK_ anime...

Really? I'd be interested to know how you'd characterise the animated
ROTK from Rankin Bass.

Did the same people work on it? Did Japanese animators work on it?

And while we are at it, does the Bakshi animation of (part of) LotR fit
into any animation tradition?

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:

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Robinsons <wrob@erols.com> wrote:

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It's (the Hobbit) basically a crossover of some sort.

I suppose you will say this makes the animated _ROTK_ anime...

Really? I'd be interested to know how you'd characterise the animated
ROTK from Rankin Bass.

RBROTK is...redeemed only by the funky disco
marching song featuring sadomasochistic orcs.

("Where there's a whip, there's a way...")

And I doubt Miyazaki had a hand in the lyrics...

Definitely Rankin-Bass ala "Land of Misfit Toys".

Did the same people work on it? Did Japanese animators work on it?

Good question.

Under the influence of the Ring, Sam has an LSD-trip where
he hallucinates World Peace between orcs and hobbits:
all the evil creatures turning into butterflies, etc.

And while we are at it, does the Bakshi animation of (part of) LotR
fit into any animation tradition?

The tradition of bad animation?

"Heather Fieldhouse" <bunnyhugger@ameritech.net> wrote in message
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"Fish Eye no Miko" <fisheye@deadmoon.circus> wrote:

No, it's not. It was made by am Amercian company for an American
audience.
And please call it "anime".

Right, but as another poster pointed out, it was animated by Top Craft,
a Japanese outfit. So although everything you say is true, it's a
little misleading to characterize it as American animation.

Not really. Most American animation these days is animated in Korea -
does that make it Korean anime? I don't think so.

Hayao Miyazaki is considered to be the "Walt Disney" of Japan

Conments like that illustrate how little thought goes into people's
appraisal of Walt Disney films, regardless of whether you include only the
films Walt himself was involved with. Miyazaki's films are sophisticated,
adult storytelling, even the ones often dismissed as "mere" children's
films
like Totoro. Disney films are simplistic. I would never equate the two.

Just as your response shows YOU'RE looking at this through rose color
glasses, and lack the true ability to "equate."

First off I said WALT DISNEY (period) as in the person who died in 1966, not
the company. In his heyday he was as cutting edge and ground breaking as
Miyazaki is now.

I am kicking myself for having missed Howl's Moving Castle during it's
regrettably short season at our local theatre and now having to wait
for DVD.

Rent the DVD, and give your seat a breather--It t'warn't his best.

And to give you an alternate opinion on the subject, I thought it could be
ranked among his top three. At the very least, it was spellbinding from
begining to end, and everyone I brought to see it loved it.

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:

http://www.imdb.com/Sections/Languages/

http://www.imdb.com/Sections/Languages/Klingon/
http://www.imdb.com/Sections/Languages/Latin/
http://www.imdb.com/Sections/Languages/MiddleEnglish/
http://www.imdb.com/Sections/Languages/OldEnglish/

I thought 13th Warrior had OE in it, but maybe not. It's been put under
Latin. And they've left out Quenya, which I think was briefly used in
some of the Jackson films.

Omar Sharif's character and one of the vikings communicate
in Latin. The other vikings speak in some scandic language,
which I guess is supposed to be Old Norse or whatever.

Cartoon Network picks up the Ghibli library.

PS: All the dubs where done by Disney, who owns the US rights to Studio
Ghibli films.

Nuki Mouse

Howl's Moving Castle
Tim Burton´s Corpse Bride
Wallace and Gromit: Curse of the Were-Rabbit

Well I'll be. All three of the most highly praised features get noms. No
trace at all of CGI features or mainstream blockbuster features.

"Derek Janssen" <ejanss@nospam.comcast.net> wrote in message
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Antonio E. Gonzalez wrote:

Was there even a big animated blockbuster in 2005?
Shrek 2 was 2004

Well, apparently Dreamworks *thinks* Wallace & Gromit "wasn't" a hit
last summer--
But then, they also think Madagascar *was*, so...

Wow, what *is* the definition of "hit" in your world?!

A.....movie we DON'T hate six months later? :)

Remember even Godzilla 1998 made 400 million dollars,
but it still sucks, SUCKS!