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Guest
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:34 pm
Colonel Forbin
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:34 pm
Guest
In article <FPednQ_aLsrVcw3fRVn-2A@comcast.com>,
Marc Goodman <marc.goodman@comcast.net> wrote:
Quote:

I put the what in the what again? You're not making any sense at all.
I think you must be high on teh goofballs or something.

Or gooballs...
Guest
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:34 pm
In article <FPednQ_aLsrVcw3fRVn-2A@comcast.com>,
Marc Goodman <marc.goodman@comcast.net> wrote:
Quote:
Seth Goldin wrote:
I think you must be confused. What I wrote clearly means
"thanks in advance." I don't get this "ADVthanksANCE" thing
you're talking about at all. Please explain.


Literally, you have placed the word "advance" inside of the word
"thanks." That translates to "advance in thanks," but by switching them
around, you would produce "thanks in advance."

I put the what in the what again? You're not making any sense at all.
I think you must be high on teh goofballs or something.

Google "picture rebus" or watch the game show Concentration.

/BAH

Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail.
rpl
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:34 pm
Guest
Marc Goodman wrote:
Quote:
Seth Goldin wrote:

I think you must be confused. What I wrote clearly means
"thanks in advance." I don't get this "ADVthanksANCE" thing
you're talking about at all. Please explain.



Literally, you have placed the word "advance" inside of the word
"thanks." That translates to "advance in thanks," but by switching
them around, you would produce "thanks in advance."


I put the what in the what again? You're not making any sense at all.
I think you must be high on teh goofballs or something.

at least one of your schizo personalities is


followups to kibo
Marc Goodman
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:34 pm
Guest
Seth Goldin wrote:
Quote:
I think you must be confused. What I wrote clearly means
"thanks in advance." I don't get this "ADVthanksANCE" thing
you're talking about at all. Please explain.


Literally, you have placed the word "advance" inside of the word
"thanks." That translates to "advance in thanks," but by switching them
around, you would produce "thanks in advance."

I put the what in the what again? You're not making any sense at all.
I think you must be high on teh goofballs or something.
WDS
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:34 pm
Guest
Paxil is very dangerous. I was on it and it caused almost violent mood
swings. Along with petite mal seizures.



"kr0" <kentr0ss@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Apparently the pharmaceutical drug Paxil may cause suicidal or violent
behavior in children. If you go to
https://www.lawyersandsettlements.com/case/paxil2 there is more
information
on this problem as well as what you can do about it. There is also a free
case evaluation provided for those who might have been affected by this. I
hope this may be of some help.

kr0

Curt Morrison
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 3:17 am
Guest
"Jerry Poliszczuk" <jpoliszczuk@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:421CDFA1.4B39CA7F@sympatico.ca...
Quote:
She's staying on her feet too long. She needs to put her feet up when she
notices that they are
starting to get sore.

Hopefully the original poster of this question sees this. The problem is
called peripheral neuropathy. This a CNS (central nervous system) problem
which is caused by pro-longed use of stimulants such as methamphetamines.
The condition is enhanced by decreased blood flow to extremities, such as
your arms and legs. Basically, your body is losing it's ability to circulate
blood throughout. When this happens, numbness occurs, ulcerations then
happen, gangrene, then death. Seriously. NO BULLSHIT.

Stop it.



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Houzitpheal
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:48 am
Guest
Peripheral neuropathy is not something that is commonly associated with
stimulant use. There are some medical journals that list temporary P.N.
as a symptom of a hard crash/comedown from speed, but not as a direct
result of speed use and I've only been able to find one or two mentions
of that. Most of the time it is associated with a disease such as
Diabetes, HIV, and cancer. As far as drug use is concerned it is most
often connected with the use of inhalants or prolonged use of alcohol.


Curt Morrison wrote:
Quote:
"Jerry Poliszczuk" <jpoliszczuk@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:421CDFA1.4B39CA7F@sympatico.ca...

She's staying on her feet too long. She needs to put her feet up when she
notices that they are
starting to get sore.


Hopefully the original poster of this question sees this. The problem is
called peripheral neuropathy. This a CNS (central nervous system) problem
which is caused by pro-longed use of stimulants such as methamphetamines.
The condition is enhanced by decreased blood flow to extremities, such as
your arms and legs. Basically, your body is losing it's ability to circulate
blood throughout. When this happens, numbness occurs, ulcerations then
happen, gangrene, then death. Seriously. NO BULLSHIT.

Stop it.



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Guest
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 6:07 am
On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 15:11:39 -0800, Jeff wrote:

Quote:
For the most part they are a load of crap, and high priced, too.
I have ordered from this particular place, once about 1 year and
a half ago, and again more recently. My more recent shipment
from them never arrived; I suspected that it went through LA and
got seized there (one of the ingredients in one of the items I
ordered, Calea [Dream Herb] is on the banned substances list
in that state as defined in the new law that bans Salvia and
39 other psychoactive plants.)

Never tried Salvia, but I'm Salvia Curious. It is hard to believe that it
is as potent as some make it out to be, considering that it is legal in
most U.S. states.

Does Salvia live up to the hype.


As far as the "herbal smoke" products go, i just figured most online head
shops sold it as a way to legitimize their paraphernalia sales, ie: "This
bong is specifically designed for the legal smoking of this oregano
concoction officer, seriously" ....

But that was just my impression.....
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Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 5:24 am
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WA women inmates allege sex assaults
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The Washington state prison system is
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Prison closure postponed
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The justice system needs long-term solutions
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Transgender ex-inmate loses suit
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:05 am
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My background is not related to medicine. I like science and chemistry as a
hobby. When I was in high school about twenty-seven police officers came to
visit my parents and I. Apparently, there was a surge of individuals being
admitted to the emergency room due to the acute reactions of Datura
Stramonium (Jimson Weed). Some of the "victims" indicated I had given the
information regarding the plant.

Jimson Weed is indigenous to Southern California and is a powerful narcotic
(too powerful), but it is not a scheduled drug. Some people in my school
were interested in obtaining access and information on drugs that were not
illegal so I enlightened them a bit. The police came by to indicate how
dangerous the information I had given was and among other things felt I
should volunteer to eradicate the plant from the area. I just laughed
telling them there was no way to eliminate the plant since it literally
grows absolutely everywhere and was natural to the climate.

I have always been knowledgeable about plants and their chemical make up
creating several different concoctions that have psychoactive results. I am
not so liberal about the results as I used to be as I am not interested in
contributing to the death of anyone deliberately or otherwise.

The extent of my knowledge regarding the brains chemistry stems from lengthy
interaction with my psychiatrist who actively treats me for ADHD and
depression. Most psychiatrists will disclose the information I have given as
it is the crux of begining to understand addiction as a disease rather than
a crime. There is a very elaborate history to unveil regarding the
understanding of the brains chemistry. It is also important to note that
addiction and dependency are synonymous terms however if one is taking
illicit drugs or drugs for an "off-label" reaction. One is an addict. If one
takes drugs for their prescribed purpose and become physically dependent
upon them. That is dependency. All of this is due to legislators regulating
drug use instead of doctors. Doctors who in fact know the beneficial
properties of certain drugs but do not prescribe them for fear of
incarceration.

Alcoholics tend to gravitate to alcohol because it has chemicals known as
"Isoquinolines" which are also in Opium. This makes the two substances
interchangeable. They even use opioid antagonists to help prevent alcohol
abuse by addicts. However opioids are much cleaner than alcohol and will not
make the user a falling down drunk. One might even live longer using
opioids. One thing is for certain, no amount of praying or attendance in AA
meetings is going to replace the missing chemicals within the affected
persons brain. Therein lies this author's frustration regarding the problems
associated with abuse.

Notably, most drugs used for the treatment of ADHD will result in dependency
however if one is taking these substances with the approval of a doctor then
this dependency is ok. If one is taking something else, its addiction. The
nationwide taboo associated with addiction is largely due to misinformation
and political orientation rather any real concerns for the perpetrators of
the crime of being an addict. In fact, since it is perfectly acceptable to
become dependent upon chemicals such as Strattera, Celebrex, and others,
society is not even preoccupied with dependence related issues. The
government is preoccupied with preventing people from taking substances that
make people high not substances that cause dependency. Additionally, one
will find the approved dependency causing substances suck in relationship to
the unapproved ones. The begs the question, "why would someone become
dependent upon a substance that doesn't work when one can become dependent
upon one that does?"

The above stated problem has been a personal dilemma for some time for this
author. Most interesating is the fact that opiates were originally
prescribed for depression and this is technically an acceptable use for the
substances however no doctor would risk prescribing them for this purpose.
Tramadol, and Buprenorphine have both exhibited antidepressant type
qualities in studies. The tricyclic antidepressants are also far more
effective for depression than the SSRI's and other types of antidepressants
available currently. Doctors hesitate to prescribe them due to their low
therapudic index. This means their therapudic dose is very close to their
toxic dose leaving them as a last resort to alternative medicines. The other
problem with them for ADHD, ADD is they do not contribute to the patients
ability to concentrate whereas a dopamine agonist like morphine cures
depression and enables the patient to concentrate on anything presented. The
opiates are also powerful stimulants to ADHD, and ADD patients. They retain
their CNS depressant qualities (like slowing respiration) however they
completely wire the patient leaving no trace of the drowsiness typically
associated with the narcotics.

This is the same type of inverse property found in amphetamines used for ADD
and ADHD. These drugs enable the patient to concentrate because they exhibit
dopamine agonist properties. The most important aspect of all of this is the
understanding that addiction is a disease (or dysfunction of the brains
chemical activities). Understanding that historically the human race
suffered enormous quantities of addicted people causing nationwide concern
and hysteria however as I previously stated, at no time was there more than
about twenty percent of the planets population addicted to a substance. This
is not an indication of a drug pandemic but rather a clear statistic of how
many people suffer from chemical deficiencies of the brain. Were it possible
for the entire population to become addicted, it would have easily happened
however people without chemical deficiencies do not experience the
overwhelming desire to self medicate with these substances because they are
not seeking some sort of balance. The tragedy is the hysteria and fear that
the governments react to adopting legislation to criminalize the activity
seeking to prevent a pandemic. The statistic is clear evidence of the extent
of the population suffering from chemical imbalances that could be
alleviated with the substances in question.

The most beneficial action would be to educate the people trying to
self-medicate regarding their condition and have the problem administrated
through the oversite of a physician. The real tragedy is all of those poor
souls trying day in and day out to remain clean and sober through prayer and
abstinence knowing full well the effort is a jawaching ordeal requiring
concentration, determination and self-discipline. Them never-knowing there
is a real deficiency requiring some sort of substance to correct. AA
mettings provide countless individuals with a new lease on life and it is
rightfully so that alcohol will kill them dead to rights but the alternative
is just as disappointing. Once they have seen (or felt) the missing
component, they try desperately to ind a suitable alternative to alleviate
the agony never undertsanding their dilemma.

Clearly addicts do not make good decisions for themselves but complete
abstinence and prayer is not going to balance the deficiency. AA and a good
doctor prescribing a suitable dosage of medicine will doubtlessly serve up
many years of happy well-adjusted living without the spectre of their past
or years of being a "Dry-drunk" gritting their teeth as they attempt to bear
with the pain.

Anyways, these are some of the observations I have made regarding my own
particular problem. I introduced the historical anecdote regarding the
police at the begining to illustrate my own problems with addiction began
around nine years of age. I was fourteen when the incident noted occurred. I
will also repost my treatise "On Methods Concerning the Synthesis of Opium."
which is also an endeavor I have undertaken trying to consolidate the useful
Alkaloids of Opium which seem far better suited for use than their extracted
counterparts. Opium is a long acting powerful substance designed to provide
maximum benefit to those suffering from certain chemical deficiencies. In
harmony the alkaloids do not produce adverse effects like feeling hung-over
or strung-out like some of the extractions. Additionally, the extractions
all seem designed to hit hard and drop off fast leaving the user with the
frustrating desire to "use" several pills several times a day verses just
taking it once in the morning and additionally, throughout the day only for
a boost (likely unnecessary however addicts do not make good decisions).












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On Jan 13, 5:26 pm, Sal_55 <zaman_2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
On 13 Jan, 18:46, Jose <jose...@ziplip.com> wrote:



On Jan 13, 3:15 am, "Dilaudid" <dilaudid@pharmakopoiía.com> wrote:

"Dilaudid" <dilaudid@pharmakopoiía.com> wrote in message

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ki0...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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So I just took 50mg of oxycodone (prescription, real shit) 4 hours
ago. No previous tolerance.
No high. I takeProzac30mg, and thats the only thing I can think
about
that could even come close to keeping me from getting high. I took
half orally and then an hour said fuck it and took the rest
rectally
(which seems to be the only way I ever get high off pills).
I've nodded before off 60mg hydro one time long ago and I don't
know
whats wrong. Could my body have a high "natural" tolerance or
something? I'm only 165 pds. Any help appreciated.

Why would you need help to get high? If these drugs fail to work for
you
then how do you know how it feels to get high? There has to be some
basis
for differentiation. I routinely have tried new substances and felt
nothing
on the first few occasions. This stems from the bodies inability to
interpret what is going on as well as a psychological predisposition
as to
what one things one should be feeling. first users of heroin
routinely get
ill, cigarettes and alcohol do exactly the same thing.

Either you are trying something new and are unable to interpret what
it
is;
really are getting high but cannot be certain what that means, or
using a
piss poor method of separation to eliminate the acetaminophen in the
Percocets (Percodan = aspirin). If extraction isn't working, don't
extract
the acetaminophen, heavy users easily graduate to twenty-thirty
pills a
day
without liver problems (a characteristic unique to abusers of this
medication).

Posting that you do not get high and then asking for help is not
going to
eliminate the problem. Typically, addicts have a chemical deficiency
within
their brain. In my case, I do not process Dopamine efficiently
leaving me
with ADHD and clinical depression. I first used alcohol to alleviate
the
pain until I was slowly going insane and had to quit. Then I used
opium
because
it cured the depression. Now I take Vivactil a tricyclic
antidepressant
which is a
norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor that causes the brain to
manufacture
dopamine.
This is so effective that it actually helped mitigate withdrawals
enough
to go on
with life and after about three weeks I was actually energetic and
in a
good mood
(no simple task).

You may be feeling indifferent to the opioids because they do not
affect
the
portion of your brain that has a deficiency. If you had a serotonin
deficiency
you would be oriented towards MDMA or so type of speed. There are
six
chemical receptors in the brain; Gamma-aminobutyric acid, Dopamine,
Serotonin,
Norepinephrine. Noradrenalin, and Acetylcholine. Several
dysfunctions are
associated with these chemicals such a being Bi-polar, Parkinson's,
depression,
ADD, and ADHD.

At any given moment in history the maximum amount of the worlds
population
that
was addicted to drugs of some sort was probably no greater than 20%.
Unfortunately, this is not indicative of an addiction pandemic
(requiring
massive
legislative action to ban the outbreak) but rather a clear estimate
of how
many
human beings have brains suffering from genetic defects in their
CNS. If
there was
some sort of addiction pandemic then the entire population would
have been
overwhelmed with the use of opiates, alcohol, cocaine, caffeine,
tobacco,
or some
other vice. The fact is no matter where you look in history there
was
enough abuse
to illustrate activity but not enough to overwhelm the normal
population.
This is how
legislation could be enacted, somebody somewhere sometime could not
see
the
overwhelming properties of the substances. These people do not
quickly
fall under
the spell of chemicals that correct the deficiency within the brain
because there is
no deficiency.

The point is, perhaps opioids are not the thing that does it for
you.
Perhaps nothing
will seem wonderful because you do not suffer from a chemical
deficiency
that
causes you to hyper focus, refuse to sit still, love to be
inebriated
(because these
circumstances temporarily represent balance in some portion of the
brain.
In this
case, you need to find what lights your fire. Likely it is not
opioids.
You could be high
as a kite and just don't know it or these drugs don't do it for you
(consider that a
blessing). If you still feel the need to investigate, try cocaine,
alcohol, amphetamines,
peyote, LSD, or get real smart and let the doctor prescribe an SSRI,
Dopamine Agonist,
Norepinephrine Reuptake Inhibitor and so on.

Oxycodone is the Cadillac of opioids for euphoria along with
hydromorphone,
6-acetylmorphine, morphine(the hydrochloride salt),
14-Hydroxydihydromorphinone
and others.

Prozacwill not eliminate or inhibit your ability to feel Opioids. In
fact, it will likely do
nothing or potentiate the effects. The other thing to do is examine
medications that will
amplify the effects like Haloperidol (this has drawbacks within its
own
right), aspirin
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Truly wonderful post
I attempted to post a sunny reply as your ability to succiently get
accross some great info in a
beautiful post hit Spot On
but, alas, somehow my reply was engulfed by the black hole called
Google.

Thanks for the post
and I will unhesitatingly look for others by you...
I still want to know what sort of profession you are in as it cannot
be one of a GP medical doctor
NOT with your insight into the mind and how it works and how its
chemical imbalances should be properly addressed
Thank you, again
and Im sorry I could not get my original post in to you in reply asII
had questions.....
(You are what Eaton here only wishes to be, in his burned-
out, pretensious shell of a mind...what is left of it)
.....................but Im still curious as to what you are and why
there are not more like you around as you seem to be able to explain
the workings of the brain and how chemical imbalances can be
detected, analyzed and properly treated
Damned interesting and nicely presented

THANKS AGAIN Smile- Hide quoted text -

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Dr White, I want to PROFUSELY apologise for being so rude to you in
this thread and calling you something along the lines of
'sonofabitch'.
It was a very dumn thing to do. i hope you can forgive me.

It was me you called a sonofabitch. Dr. White was just one of the
several people that pointed out how incorrect you were about
*everything* drug related that you posted in this thread.

I'm waiting patiently for my apology. <not holding his breath>
Dilaudid
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:46 am
Guest
"Low levels of serotonin may be associated with several disorders, namely
increase in aggressive and angry behaviors, clinical depression,
obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD), migraine, irritable bowel syndrome,
tinnitus, fibromyalgia, bipolar disorder and anxiety disorders.[citation
needed] If neurons of the brainstem that make serotonin - serotonergic
neurons - are abnormal in infants, there is a risk of sudden infant death
syndrome (SIDS).[5][6] Low levels of serotonin may also be associated with
intense religious experiences.[7]
Recent research conducted at Rockefeller University shows that in both
patients who suffer from depression and in mice that model that disease,
levels of the p11 protein are decreased. This protein is related to
serotonin transmission within the brain.[8]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin"
As you can see above a serotonin deficiency is not a contributing factor to
ADD or ADHD rather it is more likely associated with bi-polar disorder. I
went through two years of therapy for this before it was determined I had
ADD, ADHD instead. Looking below you will discover psychedelics and
amphetamine [MDMA] type drugts tend to affect this chemical receptor.
Additionally, a whole class of antidepressants target the serotonin reuptake
in the nerve synapse SSRI's [watch out for these they will positively fuck
up sexual function leaving the greater majority of patients under
psychiatric care choosing to discontinue care to continue functioning
sexually. Dopamine is also intrinsically linked to sexual function however
it dramatically prolongs sexual function when stimulated with opiates making
the usual five minute ordeal a forty-five minute episode [so if you promise
her she'll be leaving wit rugburns on er ass yo ain't kiddin!

I am uncertain to what extent your relationship with opiates is however I
can promise you it is a complete waste of time to extract hydrocodone from
the pills you get. The yield is just too low with too much going to waste to
be of any real value. Check into this on your own if you like but hard core
hydrocodone addicts easily pop 25-30 of them things a day without the known
liver effects associated with acetaminophen. The better alternative is to
seek stronger meds like Percocet/Percodan or better yet opium tea which
takes all the alkaloids in the poppy into consideration. This is a long
acting alternative to some rather short duration drugs. The problem with
pharmaceuticals is their orientation towards a particular effect mostly,
they hit hard and taper off fast leaving the user sampling them several
times daily. This does lead to a generally run down feeling with the
additional side effects of the acetaminophen tearing up the liver. Cold
water extraction is just a polite way of delaying the inevitable graduation
to a stronger opiate. This extraction method is very unfortunate in your
case because you will build tolerance lightening fast. Realize tolerance is
as simple as taking five pills one day and four the next. The following day
will be a disappointment. Careful regulation of these meds is necessary to
maximize the experience. DO NOT TAKE ONE MORE PILL THAN ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY
TO GET YOU WHERE YOU WANT TO BE! Use Adjuncts and synergistic compounds to
lengthen and maximize the effects or you will find yourself addicted and
what is worse, you won't get high from the addiction. his is a very real
prospect of messing with these meds.

Lots of things could have been different as to why you are failing to
experience the effects you want from the meds. Eating some sort of food that
has natural antagonist properties to an adverse interaction with vitamins.
You will need to examine everything that you experience to determine whats
up. Also be prepared for the possibility you have ruined your opportunity to
benefit from the hydrocodone. Taking it rectally could have totally fucked
your ability to feel buzzed due to tolerance. Think of the drugs like
poison, once your body builds up antigens negating the effects of the
poison, it becomes very unlikely that you will ever be jeopardized by the
toxin again. That is how snake charmers in India receive several Cobra bites
without dying.

You are likely stuck with two choices with hydrocodone; 1. large quantities
to get loaded or 2. always taking it rectally [subjecting yourself to
considerable risk due to respiratory depression]. In either case you will
either give up on the med or graduate to a stronger opioid. Additionally,
you may find the serotoninergic agonists identified below far more suitable
to your tastes. Good Luck


Serotonergic drugs
Several classes of drugs target the 5-HT system including some
antidepressants, antipsychotics, anxiolytics, antiemetics, and antimigraine
drugs as well as the psycoactive drugpsychoactive psychedelic drugs and
empathogens.
Psychoactive drugs
The psychedelic drugs psilocin/psilocybin, DMT, mescaline, and LSD mimick
the action of serotonin at 5-HT2A receptors. The empathogen MDMA (ecstasy)
releases serotonin from synaptic vesicles of neurons.


<ki0687@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Dilaudid, your post did intrigue me. I also suffer from a seretonin
deficiency (I think I have around half of what I should have.. meh...)
and have adhd and depression because of it. I say I can't get high
because once a few months ago I took 60mg hydro and did actually get
high, and know what the effects are. I don't know what was different,
but I'm sure it wasnt my extraction method (I only used cold water
extract on 25mg, and even then I'm 90% sure i did it right). Could I
not be getting high because of my usually apathetic predispotition
when attempting to dose? (btw, the tolerance theory couldnt be because
I have been taking them incredibly sporadically, and spaced apart).
Would a happy predisposition make it work? Hrmm.... btw, i dont
currrrrrrrr if this threads archived.
Dilaudid
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:46 am
Guest
"Low levels of serotonin may be associated with several disorders, namely
increase in aggressive and angry behaviors, clinical depression,
obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD), migraine, irritable bowel syndrome,
tinnitus, fibromyalgia, bipolar disorder and anxiety disorders.[citation
needed] If neurons of the brainstem that make serotonin - serotonergic
neurons - are abnormal in infants, there is a risk of sudden infant death
syndrome (SIDS).[5][6] Low levels of serotonin may also be associated with
intense religious experiences.[7]
Recent research conducted at Rockefeller University shows that in both
patients who suffer from depression and in mice that model that disease,
levels of the p11 protein are decreased. This protein is related to
serotonin transmission within the brain.[8]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin"
As you can see above a serotonin deficiency is not a contributing factor to
ADD or ADHD rather it is more likely associated with bi-polar disorder. I
went through two years of therapy for this before it was determined I had
ADD, ADHD instead. Looking below you will discover psychedelics and
amphetamine [MDMA] type drugts tend to affect this chemical receptor.
Additionally, a whole class of antidepressants target the serotonin reuptake
in the nerve synapse SSRI's [watch out for these they will positively fuck
up sexual function leaving the greater majority of patients under
psychiatric care choosing to discontinue care to continue functioning
sexually. Dopamine is also intrinsically linked to sexual function however
it dramatically prolongs sexual function when stimulated with opiates making
the usual five minute ordeal a forty-five minute episode [so if you promise
her she'll be leaving wit rugburns on er ass yo ain't kiddin!

I am uncertain to what extent your relationship with opiates is however I
can promise you it is a complete waste of time to extract hydrocodone from
the pills you get. The yield is just too low with too much going to waste to
be of any real value. Check into this on your own if you like but hard core
hydrocodone addicts easily pop 25-30 of them things a day without the known
liver effects associated with acetaminophen. The better alternative is to
seek stronger meds like Percocet/Percodan or better yet opium tea which
takes all the alkaloids in the poppy into consideration. This is a long
acting alternative to some rather short duration drugs. The problem with
pharmaceuticals is their orientation towards a particular effect mostly,
they hit hard and taper off fast leaving the user sampling them several
times daily. This does lead to a generally run down feeling with the
additional side effects of the acetaminophen tearing up the liver. Cold
water extraction is just a polite way of delaying the inevitable graduation
to a stronger opiate. This extraction method is very unfortunate in your
case because you will build tolerance lightening fast. Realize tolerance is
as simple as taking five pills one day and four the next. The following day
will be a disappointment. Careful regulation of these meds is necessary to
maximize the experience. DO NOT TAKE ONE MORE PILL THAN ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY
TO GET YOU WHERE YOU WANT TO BE! Use Adjuncts and synergistic compounds to
lengthen and maximize the effects or you will find yourself addicted and
what is worse, you won't get high from the addiction. his is a very real
prospect of messing with these meds.

Lots of things could have been different as to why you are failing to
experience the effects you want from the meds. Eating some sort of food that
has natural antagonist properties to an adverse interaction with vitamins.
You will need to examine everything that you experience to determine whats
up. Also be prepared for the possibility you have ruined your opportunity to
benefit from the hydrocodone. Taking it rectally could have totally fucked
your ability to feel buzzed due to tolerance. Think of the drugs like
poison, once your body builds up antigens negating the effects of the
poison, it becomes very unlikely that you will ever be jeopardized by the
toxin again. That is how snake charmers in India receive several Cobra bites
without dying.

You are likely stuck with two choices with hydrocodone; 1. large quantities
to get loaded or 2. always taking it rectally [subjecting yourself to
considerable risk due to respiratory depression]. In either case you will
either give up on the med or graduate to a stronger opioid. Additionally,
you may find the serotoninergic agonists identified below far more suitable
to your tastes. Good Luck


Serotonergic drugs
Several classes of drugs target the 5-HT system including some
antidepressants, antipsychotics, anxiolytics, antiemetics, and antimigraine
drugs as well as the psycoactive drugpsychoactive psychedelic drugs and
empathogens.
Psychoactive drugs
The psychedelic drugs psilocin/psilocybin, DMT, mescaline, and LSD mimick
the action of serotonin at 5-HT2A receptors. The empathogen MDMA (ecstasy)
releases serotonin from synaptic vesicles of neurons.


<ki0687@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ead1e5f2-c265-4188-b433-6b525752b8e8@h11g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
Dilaudid, your post did intrigue me. I also suffer from a seretonin
deficiency (I think I have around half of what I should have.. meh...)
and have adhd and depression because of it. I say I can't get high
because once a few months ago I took 60mg hydro and did actually get
high, and know what the effects are. I don't know what was different,
but I'm sure it wasnt my extraction method (I only used cold water
extract on 25mg, and even then I'm 90% sure i did it right). Could I
not be getting high because of my usually apathetic predispotition
when attempting to dose? (btw, the tolerance theory couldnt be because
I have been taking them incredibly sporadically, and spaced apart).
Would a happy predisposition make it work? Hrmm.... btw, i dont
currrrrrrrr if this threads archived.
Dilaudid
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:23 pm
Guest
Personally I'll miss you, I thought you were one of the bigger junkies on
the forum being endlessly inquisitive regarding several unique topics. An
trolling is a form of addiction anyways anything done in excess verses in
moderation is a potential dependency. You may desire to enlist the services
of a psychiatrist and explore the underlying motives relating to your desire
to troll.

One of my absolute favorite pastimes is fishing usually taking time out to
travel to the family fishing hole about six times a year. If you are feeling
like stopping now you may check into that problem because dependencies are
progressive diseases, you could be in for a real awakening/surprise the next
time the fever gets a grip on you sending you spiraling out of control
without a safety net like a group of friends to catch you and let you down
easy.

Additionally, this binging activity could be a cyclic effect of bi-polar
disorder. Getting a good psychiatrist will hook you up with some of the
better modern medications designed to even these manic fluctuations out.
Then of course after several years of using the more modern "NEW" wonder
drugs designed to address these manic moods, you can investigate the drugs
that really worked for the problem in the old days. Taking it upon yourself
to investigate the properties of these old out-dated medications, you can
really tie one on and get lit. Once you find the substance that creates
balance in your brains chemistry, gone will be the days of compulsive
trolling and a new dawn will awaken your psychotropic senses giving you an
invigorating sense of definition. Trying to find the perfect balance will
lead to a connoisseurs' approach to chemical modification

Why at that point you may even find yourself speaking in tongues like "adios
amigos" and similar phrases totally unrelated to you native language. It'd
be like Reagan from the Exorcist all over again only, "the power of pills
compels you." Driving the train of madness slowly down the tracks of this
bi-polar roller derby bingo!! a hit and a miss, a hit again and then again
hit me then harder until oops you find yourself totally changed like Alice
in wonderland trying not to drink the milk directly from the cartons with
the children on them. Only the Wizard of Oz can save them from the Lactose
intolerant tyrants who took them from their respective homes adjacent to
thumper and Rudolph the red nosed reindeer who had a very shiny gun. "Why if
u ever saw it..." "You would turn around and run!" Then one foggy Christmas
eve Santa came to say, "Rudolph with your gun so bright," "won't you please
shoot my shrink tonight."

All this due to discovering the man was wrong after all bi-polar is not next
to Santa's workshop and trolling isn't manic or depressive. Its just another
form of fishing and it really was ok to leave that newsgroup back in 2007.
Your not evil introducing dispute resolution by American Express the best
therapy since SSRI's were determined to be bad for your sex life. Adios
Junkie! it was nice readin your stochastic cynicisms set on a backdrop of
Harry Owens heaven.
"Sal_55" <zaman_2756@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
I think I'm gonna take a break from trolling this group.
But it wasn't ALL bad was it? We did have some fun?
Anyways I'm not really a troll, I'm just someone with a genuine
fascination with you junkies. If I wasn't truly fascinated with you I
wouldn't have lasted 5 years posting to ADH.
Will not a single person miss me when I'm gone?
 
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