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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:07 am |
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| Kim |
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:07 am |
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Kris Baker wrote:
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Here, there's only about one mall per town. Poor ones, at that.
We only have one, too, here where I live. I've only been in it once, and I
thought everyting was overpriced. The mall is for sale, too. And I think
*it's* overpriced, as well.
http://www.jdmillerproperties.com/Commercial.htm
BTW - see the third property down on that page? What do you think of it?
Wednesday we made an offer of $15K for it. I love the building. Don't know
what I'll do with it, but I love the building.
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| Kris Baker |
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:07 am |
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"Marie Forjan" <mforjan@optonline.net> wrote in message
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Quote: maryann kolb wrote:
I think I reaally let a good one get away. Saturday I went to an
auction. The only thing I saw that I wanted was an old English
sterling silver cup--gorgeous with warn but readable hallmarks. It
was sitting with some newish milk glass in a hutch. I saw one of the
floor persons gather all the milk glass in a box and it went for about
$12.00. I thought that the cup would be right behind it. When it
didn't come up for auction I went looking for it and there it was in
the box with the already sold milk glass. I was just sick. I hope
that the person who got it has some idea of what they got.
Mary Ann
"Anything can be anywhere."
I was at a tag sale this Summer and saw 3 small covered bottles that
looked like Fenton glass. I looked at them and put them back.
Later that day I went to a glass show and there were the same bottles.
They were marked "Sugar Shakers" and the prices ranged from $150 to $250
each. When you said you were just sick, I know exactly how you felt!
Marie
1968 "like new/unread" copy of Rick Brant #23 (a boys' series
book, a bit like The Hardy Boys, and by the same publisher).
I paid 75-cents for it, advertised it on usenet for $10.00, and
it sold within the hour. For the next month I was bombarded
with emails.....several of which told me that my buyer had
turned it around for $650.
Kris
Oh well....found another for $2 a few years later |
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| Marie Forjan |
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:07 am |
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maryann kolb wrote:
Quote: I think I reaally let a good one get away. Saturday I went to an
auction. The only thing I saw that I wanted was an old English
sterling silver cup--gorgeous with warn but readable hallmarks. It
was sitting with some newish milk glass in a hutch. I saw one of the
floor persons gather all the milk glass in a box and it went for about
$12.00. I thought that the cup would be right behind it. When it
didn't come up for auction I went looking for it and there it was in
the box with the already sold milk glass. I was just sick. I hope
that the person who got it has some idea of what they got.
Mary Ann
"Anything can be anywhere."
I was at a tag sale this Summer and saw 3 small covered bottles that
looked like Fenton glass. I looked at them and put them back.
Later that day I went to a glass show and there were the same bottles.
They were marked "Sugar Shakers" and the prices ranged from $150 to $250
each. When you said you were just sick, I know exactly how you felt!
Marie |
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| jas10021 |
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:07 am |
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"Jessica V." <jeileenbuker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Quote: Well advertised and big city doesn't guarantee that collectors of any
specific item are going to make the sale. Anyone in the trade will
tell you that they have done many sales, shows where the best items
don't get a second look because the right buyers aren't there.
That, then, raises another question: why didn't the operators take the
plates back to their shop?
They said they used a price guide to price the plates. If they went to the
effort to use the guide, they had to believe someone would pay the price or
they wouldn't have wasted the effort to price the plates at a price they
knew they couldn't get...unless they had an ulterior motive.
If they stand ready to buy what they can't sell, can a client be sure the
operators are making the best effort to sell at the best price? The
operators could price things beyond the market with the idea that they would
be able to buy it a low price (50%, in this case) and then sell at something
closer to the real market. The only way to avoid the suspicion of a
confilct of interest would be to have a code of ethics that precluds
purchase of unsold items.
So, do estate sale operators have "code of ethics," however casual it might
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| Marie Forjan |
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:07 am |
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jas10021 wrote:
Quote: "Kris Baker" <kris.baker@prodigyyy.net> wrote in message
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Serious garage sale shoppers want *deep* bargains ($1 or $2 per item).
If you had a lot of stuff, and priced it "low to go", you'd probably have
made more than $100.
Is "low to go" antiques jargon? What does it mean?
On a different note, should everything be tagged? Does the "make offer"
kind of operation scare-off the shoppers? Frankly, I think it does. I
think we should have priced everything and let 'em make an offer if they
didn't like the price. He said most folks would just walk away.
I don't like it when things aren't marked. Some people like the back and
forth of bargaining but I prefer to know what the seller is thinking up
front. It's especially difficult if it's a busy sale and hard to get the
seller's attention.
Toward the end of a sale where everything is marked I will ask for a
"best price", that's the extent of my bargaining.
Marie |
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:07 am |
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"Kris Baker" <kris.baker@prodigyyy.net> wrote in message
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"jas10021" <rs1917@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Jessica V." <jeileenbuker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Antique malls killed antique malls, it wasn't ebay's doing at least
here in Maine. I rent 100 square feet in a shop, not mall for $1000 a
year paying in advance. Malls here range in price from $25-$400 per
shelf per month plus 10-20% of gross. Malls are dead because the
dealers aren't making anything in them. The malls with lousy sell
through rates and pathetic security systems tend to lock dealers in
with leases. What was once a good thing has turned into something of
little benefit to anyone but the mall owner.
Jessica
Per shelf? Do mean that literally? A 6' x 6' booth could have 10
sheves
in
it. Would it cost $250?
In Utah, it's about $150 a month for 150 square feet of floor space....
and you have to furnish your own set-up. Then, the mall takes
15-25% of sales. There's really no security at them, except for
the two gossipers at the checkstand.
Kris
What about security? Have you ever lost anything? Is theft and breakage a
big problem? |
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"Jessica V." <jeileenbuker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Quote: I'm as serious as a heart attack. There isn't a mall here that rents
for less than $25 a shelf plus commission. There's usually an extra
charge for using floor space for furniture.
Jessica
Does the operator supply the shelving? |
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:07 am |
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"Jessica V." <jeileenbuker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Quote: Pre-American Online explosion repairable but damaged collectible items
with makers marks could be had inexpensively. I used to buy a lot of
chipped Roseville and Weller pottery at garage sales for less than a
buck maybe 10-20 for jardineres, have it professionally repaired then
sell it as professionally restored. Now with yabe as the household
price guide damaged pieces are priced at what unflawed pieces sold for.
Well, that's seems like good news. I have a damaged McCoy jardinere.
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I don't foresee online eliminating brick and mortars, but it has
decreased the number of smalls in some shops. My dad sells, collects
and restores antique safes and vault doors, it's a niche market but not
one that I ever see as being viable online. Likewise with other large
items.
I've sold online in a variety of venues since 1999, while I can't
complain about the money it is only a small percentage of annual sales.
As long as people enjoy being able to use senses beyond what can be
seen in a photograph while shopping for antiques, online isn't going to
take over the market. There are many things that I collect that for
reasons ranging from potentially hidden condition issues to cost, I
would never consider purchasing without personal inspection. I'm sure
that I am not alone there.
You've made a good point. Some buyers are just going to want to pick it up
and see it in person before they buy it. |
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:07 am |
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Is eBay killing antique malls? That happened a long time ago.
Oh sure, you can still get a good buy in an antiques mall from time to
time. But it's not like the old days.
If something isn't big, heavy and hard to ship, chances are that by the
time an item arrives in a mall booth (we are talking good antiques
here, not crapola) it has already been offered for sale on eBay.
There are, of course, exceptions. Some items sell better locally. Etc.
Ah, I did like that little golden age, that little period of time when
everyone in the Goddamned world didn't know about computers and the
internet. Sigh... that was really a good time.
Overall though, I gotta say that I am not going to be opening an
antiques mall anytime soon.
Best wishes to you, buddy,
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| Marie Forjan |
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:07 am |
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To go back to the original question - are there still finds to be made -
I have been lucky lately. Last week I found 2 Amber Federal Patrician
Sherbets for .50, 2 MacBeth Evans American Sweetheart Monax Dinner
Plates for 1.00 and 2 perfect Cambridge Statuesque cocktails with ebony
stems for the bargain price of .25 each. However, I can go for weeks
without seeing anything good, let alone anything good at a good price.
The professional tag sale companies around here (south western
Connecticut) tend to price things high. All are set up to take bids. If
I find something I like but I don't like the price I leave a bid, this
way I don't have to come back when they start dropping their prices.
Sometimes I get a good deal that way, sometimes someone else out bids me.
The thrift shops around here don't carry much I am interested in. I tend
to have better luck at consignment shops.
I end up selling some items on ebay. It will never be a living but it
fuels the obsession. If I find 6 nice depression glasses I will
typically sell 4 and keep 2 for my collection. The 4 I've sold will pay
for the 2 I keep, plus a little more if I'm lucky. This way I don't feel
hesitant to take a chance on a pattern I'm not sure about. I've learned
a lot about the different patterns and manufacturers this way, and it's
been fun.
Anyway, that's my 2 cents,
Marie |
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"Kris Baker" <kris.baker@prodigyyy.net> wrote in message
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Quote: (I have moved the reply to the BOTTOM, where it belongs).
Recent eBay auctions (remember, exposed to an audience of millions for
about
7 days, not just a weekend) sold for:
4 9" plates $69.88 ($17.47 each)
2 9" $26 ($13 each)
3 9" $20.50 ($6.83 each)
1 9" $25
1 9" $20.99
1 9" $19.99
2 9" $19.00 ($9.50 each)
I don't know if you ever buy anything on eBay but, if you do, do you
consider shipping, insurance and handling? |
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| Jessica V. |
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My guess would be that there were a lot of dealers and ebayers shopping
the sale and found that there was no room to turn a profit at $28 a
plate. You got lucky and no one who collected that pattern and needed
the plates stopped.
Jessica |
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"jas10021" <rs1917@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Quote: I recently bought 8 cherry blossom dinner plates on the third day of an
estate sale at 50% of the first and second day price. I paid $14 each
rather than the marked $28. That bothered me. Don't get me wrong. I
like
a bargain as much as the next guy but I can't imagine why they were still
available. They're not reproductions and they're in very good condition.
Jack
If they're not reproductions, you did good. I was going to say
"blame it on eBay" but they still sell for about $12ea (in quantity)
or $20 each there.
If this sale was held during the recent New Orleans disaster
coverage, that might be why. I've seen a total drop-off of
my eBay sales, my friends in retail say it's "dead" right now,
and the price of gas isn't helping either.
Take the bargains while the economy's in the crapper, and
sell higher, later.
Kris |
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