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kevinp...
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:48 pm
Guest
We have a building that we use to train firefighters. It has a lining
with temperature probes. These probes are connected to a computer
called a "Multitrend Plus V5" made by Honeywell which has a fixed IP
address on our network. I can open a browser with that IP address and
see a realtime display of the temperatures at each probe.

I want to be able to record those temperatures. I'm not sure how to
retrieve them into my VB2008 app.
 
Scott M....
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:24 pm
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"kevinp" <kevinp at (no spam) nospam.cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
news:7urje5teu1sg26bisneto2h3iactp9gm7c at (no spam) 4ax.com...
Quote:
We have a building that we use to train firefighters. It has a lining
with temperature probes. These probes are connected to a computer
called a "Multitrend Plus V5" made by Honeywell which has a fixed IP
address on our network. I can open a browser with that IP address and
see a realtime display of the temperatures at each probe.

I want to be able to record those temperatures. I'm not sure how to
retrieve them into my VB2008 app.

If the structure of the page's DOM (Document Object Model) stays consistent,
but it's only the data that changes, you can load that page up and parse it
for the values you need using JavaScript or ASP .NET (screen-scraping).

-Scott
 
Al Reid...
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:38 pm
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"kevinp" <kevinp at (no spam) nospam.cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
news:7urje5teu1sg26bisneto2h3iactp9gm7c at (no spam) 4ax.com...
Quote:
We have a building that we use to train firefighters. It has a lining
with temperature probes. These probes are connected to a computer
called a "Multitrend Plus V5" made by Honeywell which has a fixed IP
address on our network. I can open a browser with that IP address and
see a realtime display of the temperatures at each probe.

I want to be able to record those temperatures. I'm not sure how to
retrieve them into my VB2008 app.

Does the device have the Modbus communications option? If so, you should be
able to communicate with the device using the Modbus protocol over the
Ethernet.

--
Al Reid
 
kevinp...
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:24 pm
Guest
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:38:36 -0400, "Al Reid"
<areidjr at (no spam) reidDASHhome.com> wrote:

Quote:
"kevinp" <kevinp at (no spam) nospam.cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
news:7urje5teu1sg26bisneto2h3iactp9gm7c at (no spam) 4ax.com...
We have a building that we use to train firefighters. It has a lining
with temperature probes. These probes are connected to a computer
called a "Multitrend Plus V5" made by Honeywell which has a fixed IP
address on our network. I can open a browser with that IP address and
see a realtime display of the temperatures at each probe.

I want to be able to record those temperatures. I'm not sure how to
retrieve them into my VB2008 app.

Does the device have the Modbus communications option? If so, you should be
able to communicate with the device using the Modbus protocol over the
Ethernet.


Yes, it does. But I'm not sure how to communicate with it. I was
trying to save myself lots of reading...
 
kevinp...
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:25 pm
Guest
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:24:08 -0400, "Scott M." <s-mar at (no spam) nospam.nospam>
wrote:

Quote:

"kevinp" <kevinp at (no spam) nospam.cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
news:7urje5teu1sg26bisneto2h3iactp9gm7c at (no spam) 4ax.com...
We have a building that we use to train firefighters. It has a lining
with temperature probes. These probes are connected to a computer
called a "Multitrend Plus V5" made by Honeywell which has a fixed IP
address on our network. I can open a browser with that IP address and
see a realtime display of the temperatures at each probe.

I want to be able to record those temperatures. I'm not sure how to
retrieve them into my VB2008 app.

If the structure of the page's DOM (Document Object Model) stays consistent,
but it's only the data that changes, you can load that page up and parse it
for the values you need using JavaScript or ASP .NET (screen-scraping).

-Scott


I was hoping not to do it that way, but it's always an option if I can

figure out how to do it cleanly.
 
Nobody...
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:56 pm
Guest
For scraping web pages, it's better to look for XML version. If not
available, using WebBrowser and HtmlDocument classes is preferable because
it parses the HTML for you. Basically you use
GetElementsByTagName(). This gives you a collection of all elements in the
page that has that tag name, such as "A" for Anchor(links), or "IMG" for
images, and so on. Then you can loop through the collection and use
GetAttribute(). This function gives you the attribute inside the element,
such as "HREF". There are other useful functions such as:

- GetElementById(): This returns the element that matches the given ID. HTML
authors can specify it to make the page easier to scrape, but not everyone
uses it. This appear in HTML like ID="abc".
- GetElementsByName(): This returns a collection of elements matching the
given name. If the HTML author used it, you can jump to these elements
directly. This appear in HTML like NAME="xyz".

Some HTML reference pages:

http://www.htmlhelp.com/reference/html40/structure.html
http://www.htmlhelp.com/

The sample below shows how to retrieve all links and the "blue" text that
refer to them. To try this sample, start a new project, and add a button to
Form1, then use the following code(VB 2008):

Option Explicit On
Option Strict On

Public Class Form1

Private WithEvents ie As WebBrowser

Private Sub Form1_FormClosed(ByVal sender As Object, ByVal e As
System.Windows.Forms.FormClosedEventArgs) Handles Me.FormClosed
ie = Nothing
End Sub

Private Sub Form1_Load(ByVal sender As System.Object, ByVal e As
System.EventArgs) Handles MyBase.Load
ie = New WebBrowser
End Sub

Private Sub Button1_Click(ByVal sender As System.Object, ByVal e As
System.EventArgs) Handles Button1.Click
ie.Navigate("http://www.google.com/")
End Sub

Private Sub ie_DocumentCompleted(ByVal sender As Object, ByVal e As
System.Windows.Forms.WebBrowserDocumentCompletedEventArgs) Handles
ie.DocumentCompleted
Console.WriteLine("ie_DocumentCompleted called")
PrintHTMLElements("A", "HREF")
End Sub

Private Sub PrintHTMLElements(ByVal sTagName As String, ByVal
sAttributeName As String)
Dim oHTML As HtmlDocument
Dim oElementCollection As HtmlElementCollection
Dim oElement As HtmlElement

Console.WriteLine("PrintHTMLElements called")

oHTML = ie.Document
If oHTML Is Nothing Then
Console.WriteLine("oHTML Is Nothing")
Exit Sub
End If

oElementCollection = oHTML.GetElementsByTagName(sTagName)
If oElementCollection Is Nothing Then
Console.WriteLine("oElementCollection Is Nothing")
Exit Sub
End If

For Each oElement In oElementCollection
Console.WriteLine(oElement.InnerText)
Console.WriteLine(oElement.GetAttribute(sAttributeName))
Next

End Sub
End Class
 
Nobody...
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:45 pm
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"kevinp" <kevinp at (no spam) nospam.cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:38:36 -0400, "Al Reid"
areidjr at (no spam) reidDASHhome.com> wrote:

Does the device have the Modbus communications option? If so, you should
be
able to communicate with the device using the Modbus protocol over the
Ethernet.

Yes, it does. But I'm not sure how to communicate with it. I was
trying to save myself lots of reading...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modbus
 
Al Reid...
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:05 am
Guest
"kevinp" <kevinp at (no spam) nospam.cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
news:809ke5101fgd4tdt52i689je9jonldqja4 at (no spam) 4ax.com...
Quote:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:38:36 -0400, "Al Reid"
areidjr at (no spam) reidDASHhome.com> wrote:

"kevinp" <kevinp at (no spam) nospam.cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
news:7urje5teu1sg26bisneto2h3iactp9gm7c at (no spam) 4ax.com...
We have a building that we use to train firefighters. It has a lining
with temperature probes. These probes are connected to a computer
called a "Multitrend Plus V5" made by Honeywell which has a fixed IP
address on our network. I can open a browser with that IP address and
see a realtime display of the temperatures at each probe.

I want to be able to record those temperatures. I'm not sure how to
retrieve them into my VB2008 app.

Does the device have the Modbus communications option? If so, you should
be
able to communicate with the device using the Modbus protocol over the
Ethernet.


Yes, it does. But I'm not sure how to communicate with it. I was
trying to save myself lots of reading...


You could go with a commercial modbus driver. This is one example and is
not very expensive: http://www.ingeardrivers.com/mblink/mblink.htm

Otherwise, the protocols are not hard to find if you want to program it
yourself.

--
Al Reid
 
DickGrier...
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:21 am
Guest
Here is a screen-scraping example that is pretty complete:
http://www.codetoad.com/asp_http_cache.asp

I like Al's suggestion the best, if the temp monitoring devices allow it.
IMO, your time will be more valuable than the cost of the add-on. You still
need to know something about the embedded data, of course.

Dick

--
Richard Grier, Consultant, Hard & Software 12962 West Louisiana Avenue
Lakewood, CO 80228 303-986-2179 (voice) Homepage: www.hardandsoftware.net
Author of Visual Basic Programmer's Guide to Serial Communications, 4th
Edition ISBN 1-890422-28-2 (391 pages) published July 2004, Revised July
2006.
 
kevinp...
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 7:10 pm
Guest
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 10:21:11 -0600, "DickGrier"
<dick_grierNOSPAM at (no spam) msn.com> wrote:

Quote:
Here is a screen-scraping example that is pretty complete:
http://www.codetoad.com/asp_http_cache.asp

I like Al's suggestion the best, if the temp monitoring devices allow it.
IMO, your time will be more valuable than the cost of the add-on. You still
need to know something about the embedded data, of course.

Dick


Thanks to everyone for their suggestions. I'll be checking them out in
the next few days.
 
kevinp...
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:18 pm
Guest
I ended up doing the screen-scrape method. Everything's working fine,
just have to finish the app.

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 10:21:11 -0600, "DickGrier"
<dick_grierNOSPAM at (no spam) msn.com> wrote:

Quote:
Here is a screen-scraping example that is pretty complete:
http://www.codetoad.com/asp_http_cache.asp

I like Al's suggestion the best, if the temp monitoring devices allow it.
IMO, your time will be more valuable than the cost of the add-on. You still
need to know something about the embedded data, of course.

Dick
 
 
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