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It's been about five years since I used Photoshop (been sick). Now I'm
feeling better and want to get back in the game. I used to have to
calibrate my LaCie monitor - then calibrate my printer. Now I have a
new Vista (HP laptop) and would like to know what the best way to
calibrate colors is? I could still use my LaCie CRT monitor but would
rather not because of space limitations. Guess I'm assuming that
technology in color matching has progressed in the last five years to
the point where it is much simpler to do. Any suggestions are welcome.
I'm starting from scratch. |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:36 pm |
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On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 10:13:13 -0700, Mike Russell
<groupsRE at (no spam) MOVEcurvemeister.com> wrote:
Quote: On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:00:39 -0400, rmo555 at (no spam) cox.net wrote:
It's been about five years since I used Photoshop (been sick). Now I'm
feeling better and want to get back in the game. I used to have to
calibrate my LaCie monitor - then calibrate my printer. Now I have a
new Vista (HP laptop) and would like to know what the best way to
calibrate colors is? I could still use my LaCie CRT monitor but would
rather not because of space limitations. Guess I'm assuming that
technology in color matching has progressed in the last five years to
the point where it is much simpler to do. Any suggestions are welcome.
I'm starting from scratch.
Remarkably little has happened in the last 5 years. In fact, this has not
been a profitable market. The companies making calibration equipment have
been going south, and merging with Gretag Macbeth. I'd recommend getting
as good an LCD display as your budget can afford, plus a calibration device
such as the Spyder Pro or the i1 display. Calibrating your printer is
still cost prohibitive.
What do you mean by 'cost prohibitive?' The printed photo should look
just like what you see on the monitor. BTW, do you have any
recommendations on LCD monitors? Cost won't be an issue. |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:37 pm |
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On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 10:13:13 -0700, Mike Russell
<groupsRE at (no spam) MOVEcurvemeister.com> wrote:
Quote: On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:00:39 -0400, rmo555 at (no spam) cox.net wrote:
It's been about five years since I used Photoshop (been sick). Now I'm
feeling better and want to get back in the game. I used to have to
calibrate my LaCie monitor - then calibrate my printer. Now I have a
new Vista (HP laptop) and would like to know what the best way to
calibrate colors is? I could still use my LaCie CRT monitor but would
rather not because of space limitations. Guess I'm assuming that
technology in color matching has progressed in the last five years to
the point where it is much simpler to do. Any suggestions are welcome.
I'm starting from scratch.
Remarkably little has happened in the last 5 years. In fact, this has not
been a profitable market. The companies making calibration equipment have
been going south, and merging with Gretag Macbeth. I'd recommend getting
as good an LCD display as your budget can afford, plus a calibration device
such as the Spyder Pro or the i1 display. Calibrating your printer is
still cost prohibitive.
Who makes the i1 display? |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:56 pm |
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rmo555 at (no spam) cox.net found these unused words:
Quote: It's been about five years since I used Photoshop (been sick). Now I'm
feeling better and want to get back in the game. I used to have to
calibrate my LaCie monitor - then calibrate my printer. Now I have a
new Vista (HP laptop) and would like to know what the best way to
calibrate colors is? I could still use my LaCie CRT monitor but would
rather not because of space limitations. Guess I'm assuming that
technology in color matching has progressed in the last five years to
the point where it is much simpler to do. Any suggestions are welcome.
I'm starting from scratch.
Depends upon how serious you are about the 'match'.
Still the only correct full procedure is to use an electonic calibrated
'eye' for setting the monitor, then use one of the professional 'charts' to
scan and colour correct the scanner. The print and comapre the result with
the 'chart' and adjust the printer until they match.
Several 'kits' are offered, but they are pricy.
In between, use one of the Kodak chip cards and match by eye with the
monitor 'set' with Adobe Gamma.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 9:13 pm |
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On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:00:39 -0400, rmo555 at (no spam) cox.net wrote:
Quote: It's been about five years since I used Photoshop (been sick). Now I'm
feeling better and want to get back in the game. I used to have to
calibrate my LaCie monitor - then calibrate my printer. Now I have a
new Vista (HP laptop) and would like to know what the best way to
calibrate colors is? I could still use my LaCie CRT monitor but would
rather not because of space limitations. Guess I'm assuming that
technology in color matching has progressed in the last five years to
the point where it is much simpler to do. Any suggestions are welcome.
I'm starting from scratch.
Remarkably little has happened in the last 5 years. In fact, this has not
been a profitable market. The companies making calibration equipment have
been going south, and merging with Gretag Macbeth. I'd recommend getting
as good an LCD display as your budget can afford, plus a calibration device
such as the Spyder Pro or the i1 display. Calibrating your printer is
still cost prohibitive.
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Mike Russell - http://www.curvemeister.com |
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| Mike Russell... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:16 am |
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On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:36:09 -0400, rmo555 at (no spam) cox.net wrote:
Quote: On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 10:13:13 -0700, Mike Russell
groupsRE at (no spam) MOVEcurvemeister.com> wrote:
On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:00:39 -0400, rmo555 at (no spam) cox.net wrote:
It's been about five years since I used Photoshop (been sick). Now I'm
feeling better and want to get back in the game. I used to have to
calibrate my LaCie monitor - then calibrate my printer. Now I have a
new Vista (HP laptop) and would like to know what the best way to
calibrate colors is? I could still use my LaCie CRT monitor but would
rather not because of space limitations. Guess I'm assuming that
technology in color matching has progressed in the last five years to
the point where it is much simpler to do. Any suggestions are welcome.
I'm starting from scratch.
Remarkably little has happened in the last 5 years. In fact, this has not
been a profitable market. The companies making calibration equipment have
been going south, and merging with Gretag Macbeth. I'd recommend getting
as good an LCD display as your budget can afford, plus a calibration device
such as the Spyder Pro or the i1 display. Calibrating your printer is
still cost prohibitive.
What do you mean by 'cost prohibitive?'
It's possible to spend over $1000 and still not get a good match to your
printer. If you have a printer that you want to calibrate, consider using
a service to do so.
Quote: The printed photo should look
just like what you see on the monitor.
It is practical and possible to get a good match between monitor and
printer. The print should be free of any color cast, and you should be
able to predict the overall brightness of the print, as well as shadow and
highlight detail from the monitor.
More than that, IMHO, is chasing a wil o' the wisp. However, if you want
to explore the cool color technology of today, check out the X-Rite
colormunkee. It's reasonably priced at under $400, and will calibrate just
about anything. Still no guarantees that this is the color rosetta stone
you've been waiting for though.
Quote: BTW, do you have any
recommendations on LCD monitors? Cost won't be an issue.
Eizo would be high on my list, if money were not an issue, both for color
accuracy and quality.
--
Mike Russell - http://www.curvemeister.com |
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:16 am |
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in addition to the eizo cg series of monitors one might consider the
"normlicht" light boxes that are not only 5000k but also can be set to
the same light intensity as the eizo monitor. i use one to review
prints in the evening.
steve
On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:49:20 -0700, Mike Russell
<groupsRE at (no spam) MOVEcurvemeister.com> wrote:
Quote: On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:36:09 -0400, rmo555 at (no spam) cox.net wrote:
On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 10:13:13 -0700, Mike Russell
groupsRE at (no spam) MOVEcurvemeister.com> wrote:
On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:00:39 -0400, rmo555 at (no spam) cox.net wrote:
It's been about five years since I used Photoshop (been sick). Now I'm
feeling better and want to get back in the game. I used to have to
calibrate my LaCie monitor - then calibrate my printer. Now I have a
new Vista (HP laptop) and would like to know what the best way to
calibrate colors is? I could still use my LaCie CRT monitor but would
rather not because of space limitations. Guess I'm assuming that
technology in color matching has progressed in the last five years to
the point where it is much simpler to do. Any suggestions are welcome.
I'm starting from scratch.
Remarkably little has happened in the last 5 years. In fact, this has not
been a profitable market. The companies making calibration equipment have
been going south, and merging with Gretag Macbeth. I'd recommend getting
as good an LCD display as your budget can afford, plus a calibration device
such as the Spyder Pro or the i1 display. Calibrating your printer is
still cost prohibitive.
What do you mean by 'cost prohibitive?'
It's possible to spend over $1000 and still not get a good match to your
printer. If you have a printer that you want to calibrate, consider using
a service to do so.
The printed photo should look
just like what you see on the monitor.
It is practical and possible to get a good match between monitor and
printer. The print should be free of any color cast, and you should be
able to predict the overall brightness of the print, as well as shadow and
highlight detail from the monitor.
More than that, IMHO, is chasing a wil o' the wisp. However, if you want
to explore the cool color technology of today, check out the X-Rite
colormunkee. It's reasonably priced at under $400, and will calibrate just
about anything. Still no guarantees that this is the color rosetta stone
you've been waiting for though.
BTW, do you have any
recommendations on LCD monitors? Cost won't be an issue.
Eizo would be high on my list, if money were not an issue, both for color
accuracy and quality. |
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:50 pm |
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BTW, rmo, welcome back, and speaking for all of us, we're glad you're back
in the game again!
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Mike Russell - http://www.curvemeister.com |
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| Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 12:02 am |
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On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:49:20 -0700, Mike Russell
<groupsRE at (no spam) MOVEcurvemeister.com> wrote:
Quote: On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:36:09 -0400, rmo555 at (no spam) cox.net wrote:
On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 10:13:13 -0700, Mike Russell
groupsRE at (no spam) MOVEcurvemeister.com> wrote:
On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:00:39 -0400, rmo555 at (no spam) cox.net wrote:
It's been about five years since I used Photoshop (been sick). Now I'm
feeling better and want to get back in the game. I used to have to
calibrate my LaCie monitor - then calibrate my printer. Now I have a
new Vista (HP laptop) and would like to know what the best way to
calibrate colors is? I could still use my LaCie CRT monitor but would
rather not because of space limitations. Guess I'm assuming that
technology in color matching has progressed in the last five years to
the point where it is much simpler to do. Any suggestions are welcome.
I'm starting from scratch.
Remarkably little has happened in the last 5 years. In fact, this has not
been a profitable market. The companies making calibration equipment have
been going south, and merging with Gretag Macbeth. I'd recommend getting
as good an LCD display as your budget can afford, plus a calibration device
such as the Spyder Pro or the i1 display. Calibrating your printer is
still cost prohibitive.
What do you mean by 'cost prohibitive?'
It's possible to spend over $1000 and still not get a good match to your
printer. If you have a printer that you want to calibrate, consider using
a service to do so.
The printed photo should look
just like what you see on the monitor.
It is practical and possible to get a good match between monitor and
printer. The print should be free of any color cast, and you should be
able to predict the overall brightness of the print, as well as shadow and
highlight detail from the monitor.
More than that, IMHO, is chasing a wil o' the wisp. However, if you want
to explore the cool color technology of today, check out the X-Rite
colormunkee. It's reasonably priced at under $400, and will calibrate just
about anything. Still no guarantees that this is the color rosetta stone
you've been waiting for though.
BTW, do you have any
recommendations on LCD monitors? Cost won't be an issue.
Eizo would be high on my list, if money were not an issue, both for color
accuracy and quality.
What about the Colormunki monitor and printer calibration device for
£270 or so in the UK .
Does anyone have any info about how well that works. It does not seem
that expensive
John |
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On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:50:03 -0700, Mike Russell
<groupsRE at (no spam) MOVEcurvemeister.com> wrote:
Quote: BTW, rmo, welcome back, and speaking for all of us, we're glad you're back
in the game again!
Thank - I'm surprised you remember me!! |
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| Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:16 am |
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On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:05:54 -0400, rmo555 at (no spam) cox.net wrote:
Quote: On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:50:03 -0700, Mike Russell
groupsRE at (no spam) MOVEcurvemeister.com> wrote:
BTW, rmo, welcome back, and speaking for all of us, we're glad you're back
in the game again!
Thank - I'm surprised you remember me!!
Forget Bobby "O"? Never!
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Mike Russell - http://www.curvemeister.com |
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