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| Bob Williams... |
 Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:14 pm |
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Do any of you routinely do selections of images with detailed outlines
using the Filter > Extract Command?
I am using PS 7.0 and for me, it is pretty tedious.
Do you have a better, simpler and quicker way to do the selection?
There used to be a PS plug-in called "Knockout".
I never used it but I suspect the program is still available somewhere.
Anybody use it?
Is it significantly different from EXTRACT?
Bob Williams |
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| Kabuki... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:39 pm |
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I never use extract
In PS 4 was a selection tutorial and I learned from that
do you have magnetic lasso in version 7?
I use a combination of tools and also depends upon the photo background
If there are large similar color background like a cyc I use Select>color
range (then inverse)
also the magic wand at various tolerances can be used to clean up messy
areas
I also like the magnetic lasso for that, as it hugs to edges as you go
around
many people like the pen tool (I don't)
another completely different method is using channels
it seems complex but if you follow along the steps it is not bad
http://av.adobe.com/russellbrown/AdvancedMasking.mov (long load time-wait)
"Bob Williams" <mytbobnospam at (no spam) cox.net> wrote in message
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Quote: Do any of you routinely do selections of images with detailed outlines
using the Filter > Extract Command?
I am using PS 7.0 and for me, it is pretty tedious.
Do you have a better, simpler and quicker way to do the selection?
There used to be a PS plug-in called "Knockout".
I never used it but I suspect the program is still available somewhere.
Anybody use it?
Is it significantly different from EXTRACT?
Bob Williams |
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| tony cooper... |
| Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 1:05 am |
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On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 03:14:00 -0700, Bob Williams
<mytbobnospam at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
Quote: Do any of you routinely do selections of images with detailed outlines
using the Filter > Extract Command?
I am using PS 7.0 and for me, it is pretty tedious.
Do you have a better, simpler and quicker way to do the selection?
There used to be a PS plug-in called "Knockout".
I never used it but I suspect the program is still available somewhere.
Anybody use it?
Is it significantly different from EXTRACT?
Bob Williams
Once you learn how to use the Layer Mask function of Photoshop, you'll
never miss Extract. (Which has been dropped in later versions) Also
good for extractions is Quick Mask. I do use a Wacom Bamboo tablet
for the close work.
However, if you want KnockOut, it's now a product of Corel. KnockOut2
sells for $99. They don't seem to have a trial version.
http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite/us/en/Product/1152105061771#tabview=tab0
A Wacom Bamboo tablet is also $99 (or less if you catch a special
offer), and money better spent (imo) than $99 for KnockOut2.
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| Bob Williams... |
| Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:12 am |
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Yes! I have the Magnetic Lasso in PS 7.0
I sometimes use it for selecting detail but selecting stuff like hair,
fur, feathers, etc., drives me nuts.
I've been considering a Wacom tablet but haven't taken the "plunge" yet.
Bob
Kabuki wrote:
Quote: I never use extract
In PS 4 was a selection tutorial and I learned from that
do you have magnetic lasso in version 7?
I use a combination of tools and also depends upon the photo background
If there are large similar color background like a cyc I use Select>color
range (then inverse)
also the magic wand at various tolerances can be used to clean up messy
areas
I also like the magnetic lasso for that, as it hugs to edges as you go
around
many people like the pen tool (I don't)
another completely different method is using channels
it seems complex but if you follow along the steps it is not bad
http://av.adobe.com/russellbrown/AdvancedMasking.mov (long load time-wait)
"Bob Williams" <mytbobnospam at (no spam) cox.net> wrote in message
news:JdiAm.43894$bP1.42648 at (no spam) newsfe24.iad...
Do any of you routinely do selections of images with detailed outlines
using the Filter > Extract Command?
I am using PS 7.0 and for me, it is pretty tedious.
Do you have a better, simpler and quicker way to do the selection?
There used to be a PS plug-in called "Knockout".
I never used it but I suspect the program is still available somewhere.
Anybody use it?
Is it significantly different from EXTRACT?
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| Kabuki... |
| Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:49 pm |
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Quote: Kabuki wrote:
I never use extract
In PS 4 was a selection tutorial and I learned from that
do you have magnetic lasso in version 7?
I use a combination of tools and also depends upon the photo background
If there are large similar color background like a cyc I use Select>color
range (then inverse)
also the magic wand at various tolerances can be used to clean up messy
areas
I also like the magnetic lasso for that, as it hugs to edges as you go
around
many people like the pen tool (I don't)
another completely different method is using channels
it seems complex but if you follow along the steps it is not bad
http://av.adobe.com/russellbrown/AdvancedMasking.mov (long load
time-wait)
"Bob Williams" <mytbobnospam at (no spam) cox.net> wrote in message
news:JdiAm.43894$bP1.42648 at (no spam) newsfe24.iad...
Do any of you routinely do selections of images with detailed outlines
using the Filter > Extract Command?
I am using PS 7.0 and for me, it is pretty tedious.
Do you have a better, simpler and quicker way to do the selection?
There used to be a PS plug-in called "Knockout".
I never used it but I suspect the program is still available somewhere.
Anybody use it?
Is it significantly different from EXTRACT?
Bob Williams
"Bob Williams" <mytbobnospam at (no spam) cox.net> wrote in message
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Quote: Yes! I have the Magnetic Lasso in PS 7.0
I sometimes use it for selecting detail but selecting stuff like hair,
fur, feathers, etc., drives me nuts.
I've been considering a Wacom tablet but haven't taken the "plunge" yet.
Bob
DID you try the video method I posted- it is specifically about doing
blowing hair!! the most accurate way I have seen so far
Please for sake of continuity do not top post but reply below |
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| Joe... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:14 am |
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Bob Williams <mytbobnospam at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
Quote: Do any of you routinely do selections of images with detailed outlines
using the Filter > Extract Command?
I am using PS 7.0 and for me, it is pretty tedious.
Do you have a better, simpler and quicker way to do the selection?
There used to be a PS plug-in called "Knockout".
I never used it but I suspect the program is still available somewhere.
Anybody use it?
Is it significantly different from EXTRACT?
Bob Williams
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| Joe... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:19 am |
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Bob Williams <mytbobnospam at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
Quote: Do any of you routinely do selections of images with detailed outlines
using the Filter > Extract Command?
I am using PS 7.0 and for me, it is pretty tedious.
Do you have a better, simpler and quicker way to do the selection?
There used to be a PS plug-in called "Knockout".
I never used it but I suspect the program is still available somewhere.
Anybody use it?
Is it significantly different from EXTRACT?
Bob Williams
Extract Command isn't worth the trouble, and KnockOut isn't worth the $$$.
Neither one of them is worth to try as they are horrible,
If you really want to then pick your choice
- Learning to use Mask Command, if you mastered the skill then it's the best
choice.
- If you really want some plug-in to work with your Masking skill, then you
may want to take a look at Fluid Mask and EZ-Mask both has some good/bad
point between them two.
But you still need the Masking skill to finish the job.
I don't remember if Photoshop v7 has the Quick Mask command or not, but
Quick Mask command the [o] Command which I use on almost all my works. |
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| Joe... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:25 am |
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"Kabuki" <masqued at (no spam) ball.net> wrote:
Quote: Yes! I have the Magnetic Lasso in PS 7.0
I sometimes use it for selecting detail but selecting stuff like hair,
fur, feathers, etc., drives me nuts.
I've been considering a Wacom tablet but haven't taken the "plunge" yet.
Bob
DID you try the video method I posted- it is specifically about doing
blowing hair!! the most accurate way I have seen so far
Please for sake of continuity do not top post but reply below
I don't like responsing the top-poster so I quote yours instead.
- For hair, EZ-Mask is very good on hair.
I have seen quite afew using Channel to deal with hair or edge and most of
them turn out horrible. I know it helps if using combination with some
Blending Mode's but I am not good with the Blending Modes (too many and
complex for me to remember)
- Me? I don't do flying hair. But if I have to deal with some hair then I
use the combination of Quick Mask and Hair Brush to create some fake hair to
hide some bad spot. Of course with the combination of Masking, Layer,
Blending (not blending mode but how to blend background and foreground) |
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