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| bill crowell... |
 Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 1:15 pm |
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I've been developing a large, web-based system using QM on Mac OS X
Server for the past 2 years. It's now running a large medical
application with 100+ users with the final beta to be 500 users by
year's end. The application is built with Pavuk IDF - my 5GL that will
be ready for release next year (presently I'm busy with the medical
application). Pavuk is a 1-step-to-web application development
framework for the Internet using QM as its entire runtime system.
Pavuk has its own HTTP server and has tight integration into the QM
database system as it's written in QM BASIC as is most of the system.
It's also integrated into LDAP. None of this would be possible without
the valuable extensions that Martin has written into QM to support
Pavuk.
Running a web system is much more challenging than green-screens. QM
consistently performs faster than any of the other 15 flavors of Pick
that I've used in the 27 years I've been in the industry. It is solid,
stable and reliable. Martin has also set the price to an extremely
competitive level and offers superb support.
Quality Medical Systems (QMSystems) is a medical information systems
company that is taking its Penta-EHS system to market in 1Q 2010 after
our beta.
I suggest to all of you that now is a great time to migrate your
UniVerse systems to QM. I've done the migration for my previous
company's application. Ladybridge Systems is focused only on 1 thing -
that is producing and supporting a fantastic database.
Both Pavuk Technologies, LLC and Quality Medical Systems, LLC have
staked their future on QM.
The migration path from UniVerse to QM is as straight-forward as any.
There are direct file conversion utilities from Ladybridge Systems as
well as the open-source network account transfer utility - QMTRANSFER.
All of us, as system developers, need a MV database on which we can
rely. Much of that has to do with the company that stands behind it. I
submit to the group that Ladybridge Systems is the best choice.
Bill |
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| dmm... |
| Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:12 am |
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On Sep 17, 11:15 pm, bill crowell <bcrow... at (no spam) qmsystems.net> wrote:
Quote: I've been developing a large, web-based system using QM on Mac OS X
Server for the past 2 years. It's now running a large medical
application with 100+ users with the final beta to be 500 users by
year's end. The application is built with Pavuk IDF - my 5GL that will
be ready for release next year (presently I'm busy with the medical
application). Pavuk is a 1-step-to-web application development
framework for the Internet using QM as its entire runtime system.
[snip]
I'm perhaps a bit slower than most, but I'd be interested to hear how
you define a '5GL'. Is this a 4GL with 'extra whiz'? What makes it a
5GL?
cheers,
dave |
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| Chandru Murthi... |
| Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 11:21 pm |
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Quote: What makes it a 5GL?
Takes five people to do what four could do before, because they're all
Googling to get info on bugs/quirks.
Chandru
"dmm" <stope19 at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3861f51e-2edb-4452-8e0b-5f6e1b194432 at (no spam) q40g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 17, 11:15 pm, bill crowell <bcrow... at (no spam) qmsystems.net> wrote:
Quote: I've been developing a large, web-based system using QM on Mac OS X
Server for the past 2 years. It's now running a large medical
application with 100+ users with the final beta to be 500 users by
year's end. The application is built with Pavuk IDF - my 5GL that will
be ready for release next year (presently I'm busy with the medical
application). Pavuk is a 1-step-to-web application development
framework for the Internet using QM as its entire runtime system.
[snip]
I'm perhaps a bit slower than most, but I'd be interested to hear how
you define a '5GL'. Is this a 4GL with 'extra whiz'? cheers,
dave |
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| frosty... |
| Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 4:18 am |
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Marty: Why don't you make four louder and make four
be the top number and make that a little louder?
Nigel: These go to five.
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frosty
Chandru Murthi wrote:
Quote: What makes it a 5GL?
Takes five people to do what four could do before, because they're all
Googling to get info on bugs/quirks.
Chandru
"dmm" <stope19 at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3861f51e-2edb-4452-8e0b-5f6e1b194432 at (no spam) q40g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 17, 11:15 pm, bill crowell <bcrow... at (no spam) qmsystems.net> wrote:
I've been developing a large, web-based system using QM on Mac OS X
Server for the past 2 years. It's now running a large medical
application with 100+ users with the final beta to be 500 users by
year's end. The application is built with Pavuk IDF - my 5GL that
will be ready for release next year (presently I'm busy with the
medical application). Pavuk is a 1-step-to-web application
development framework for the Internet using QM as its entire
runtime system. [snip]
I'm perhaps a bit slower than most, but I'd be interested to hear how
you define a '5GL'. Is this a 4GL with 'extra whiz'? cheers,
dave |
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| bill crowell... |
| Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:34 pm |
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On Sep 19, 8:18 pm, "frosty" <fros... at (no spam) bogus.tld> wrote:
Quote: Marty: Why don't you make four louder and make four
be the top number and make that a little louder?
Nigel: These go to five.
--
frosty
Chandru Murthi wrote:
What makes it a 5GL?
Takes five people to do what four could do before, because they're all
Googling to get info on bugs/quirks.
Chandru
"dmm" <stop... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3861f51e-2edb-4452-8e0b-5f6e1b194432 at (no spam) q40g2000prh.googlegroups.com....
On Sep 17, 11:15 pm, bill crowell <bcrow... at (no spam) qmsystems.net> wrote:
I've been developing a large, web-based system using QM on Mac OS X
Server for the past 2 years. It's now running a large medical
application with 100+ users with the final beta to be 500 users by
year's end. The application is built with Pavuk IDF - my 5GL that
will be ready for release next year (presently I'm busy with the
medical application). Pavuk is a 1-step-to-web application
development framework for the Internet using QM as its entire
runtime system. [snip]
I'm perhaps a bit slower than most, but I'd be interested to hear how
you define a '5GL'. Is this a 4GL with 'extra whiz'? cheers,
dave
I like Chandru's reply!!! Actually, 2 reasons why it's a 5 GL.
1. One person can do the work of 5
2. It is a FRAMEWORK in which the application resides. Because the
framework holds the application and handles all of the critical
components in one small set of very clean code, application
programmers are left to do the really fun stuff which is writing
business rules instead of trudging through screen layouts, input
prompts and trying to learn Javascript...
If I see another mini-tutorial in Spectrum on writing JS to try to put
lipstick on a pig, I'm killing Nathan!!! (just kidding. I really like
Nathan) |
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| Tony Gravagno... |
| Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:30 pm |
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So as John said, 5 is just a better sounding number than 4.
Hey John - it's a love ballad... |
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| Peter McMurray... |
| Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:45 am |
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Hi
The description given describes what we first did with Pobol 32 years ago
when the idea was described as a system generator with the term 4gl coming
in some time later. There have been many variations on the theme since such
as Cuebic, System Builder, our own Argo which we are in the process of
putting a web front on. More recently we have Visage and mv.Net. I have
never worked with Forge and others so I cannot comment on their methodology.
I think that you need more than the word framework to come up with something
so unique that it warrants 5gl. Certainly more than putting a Javascrit
presentation layer on a normal 4gl.
That said I congratulate you on your efforts and look forward to reading
more as, like Visage, you have forged your efforts in the real world of
significant applications.
Peter McMurray
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Quote: I'm perhaps a bit slower than most, but I'd be interested to hear how
you define a '5GL'. Is this a 4GL with 'extra whiz'? cheers,
dave
I like Chandru's reply!!! Actually, 2 reasons why it's a 5 GL.
1. One person can do the work of 5
2. It is a FRAMEWORK in which the application resides. Because the
framework holds the application and handles all of the critical
components in one small set of very clean code, application
programmers are left to do the really fun stuff which is writing
business rules instead of trudging through screen layouts, input
prompts and trying to learn Javascript...
If I see another mini-tutorial in Spectrum on writing JS to try to put
lipstick on a pig, I'm killing Nathan!!! (just kidding. I really like
Nathan) |
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