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weiying...
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:33 pm
Guest
Hi all,
I once read a paper that describes a heuristic equation for finding
optimal number of hidden neurons. it is: the number of hidden units=
(the number of variables + the number of classes )/2. I forget where
it is. If someone know the source of this equation or some related
work, pleas let me know.

Thank you.
 
GavinCawley at (no spam) googlemail.com...
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:27 pm
Guest
On 29 July, 19:33, weiying <luweiyin... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
Hi all,
I once read a paper that describes a heuristic equation for finding
optimal number of hidden neurons. it is: the number of hidden units=
(the number of variables + the number of classes )/2. I forget where
it is. If someone know the source of this equation or some related
work, pleas let me know.

Thank you.

None of the rules of thumb really work (IMHO). If it is a linear
problem, you don't need any hidden layer neurons, if you have a
pathological problem (try the ringnorm benchmark) you will need a very
large number. I am working on an empirical study on this, I may have
the first set of results within the next month or so. The interim
results suggest using a large network and Bayesian regularisation as a
basic strategy for generalisation, although that is no panacea.
However, first test to see if it is a linearly separable problem.

HTH

Gavin

BTW, I'm sure Greg will be able able to help with this one.
 
Greg...
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:58 am
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On Jul 29, 2:33 pm, weiying <luweiyin... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
Hi all,
  I once read a paper that describes a heuristic equation for finding
optimal number of hidden neurons. it is: the number of hidden units> (the number of variables + the number of classes )/2. I forget where
it is. If someone know the source of this equation or some related
work, pleas let me know.

Thank you.

If someone know the source of this equation, DON'T LET ANYONE
KNOW!

The optimal No. can only be found by trial and error. Rules of thumb
like

Neq >> Nw

are helpful. Search the archives using

greg-heath Neq Nw

Hope his helps.

Greg
 
Greg...
Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:11 am
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On Aug 5, 8:58 pm, Greg <he... at (no spam) alumni.brown.edu> wrote:
Quote:
On Jul 29, 2:33 pm, weiying <luweiyin... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,
  I once read a paper that describes a heuristic equation for finding
optimal number of hidden neurons. it is: the number of hidden units> > (the number of variables + the number of classes )/2. I forget where
it is. If someone know the source of this equation or some related
work, pleas let me know.

Thank you.

If someone know the source of this equation, DON'T LET ANYONE
KNOW!

The optimal No. can only be found by trial and error. Rules of thumb
like

Neq >> Nw

are helpful. Search the archives using

greg-heath Neq Nw

Of course if Neq >> Nw is not satified, you can also use
Early Stopping and/or regularization.

See the FAQ.

Greg
 
weiying...
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 6:52 pm
Guest
On Aug 7, 9:11 pm, Greg <he... at (no spam) alumni.brown.edu> wrote:
Quote:
On Aug 5, 8:58 pm, Greg <he... at (no spam) alumni.brown.edu> wrote:





On Jul 29, 2:33 pm, weiying <luweiyin... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,
  I once read a paper that describes a heuristic equation for finding
optimal number of hidden neurons. it is: the number of hidden units> > > (the number of variables + the number of classes )/2. I forget where
it is. If someone know the source of this equation or some related
work, pleas let me know.

Thank you.

If someone know the source of this equation, DON'T LET ANYONE
KNOW!

The optimal No. can only be found by trial and error. Rules of thumb
like

Neq >> Nw

are helpful. Search the archives using

greg-heath Neq Nw

Of course if Neq >> Nw is not satified, you  can also use
Early Stopping and/or regularization.

See the FAQ.

Greg- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I have some clues. Thank you all for your suggestions.
 
George Campbel...
Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 1:55 am
Guest
On Aug 22, 2:52 am, weiying <luweiyin... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Aug 7, 9:11 pm, Greg <he... at (no spam) alumni.brown.edu> wrote:



On Aug 5, 8:58 pm, Greg <he... at (no spam) alumni.brown.edu> wrote:

On Jul 29, 2:33 pm, weiying <luweiyin... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,
  I once read a paper that describes a heuristic equation for finding
optimal number of hidden neurons. it is: the number of hidden units> > > > (the number of variables + the number of classes )/2. I forget where
it is. If someone know the source of this equation or some related
work, pleas let me know.

Thank you.

If someone know the source of this equation, DON'T LET ANYONE
KNOW!

The optimal No. can only be found by trial and error. Rules of thumb
like

Neq >> Nw

are helpful. Search the archives using

greg-heath Neq Nw

Of course if Neq >> Nw is not satified, you  can also use
Can you share it with us please.


I am also working on that but have not gotten headway.

Thanks,
Campbel

Quote:
Early Stopping and/or regularization.

See the FAQ.

Greg- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I have some clues.  Thank you all for your suggestions.
 
baldrick...
Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 7:52 am
Guest
Quote:
Neq >> Nw


Hope his helps.

Not really!!!

unless I start using matlab I presume, which I am not about to. So I
guess I'll remain in the dark ;-(
 
Greg...
Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 8:24 am
Guest
On Aug 21, 9:55 pm, George Campbel <gcampbel2... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Aug 22, 2:52 am, weiying <luweiyin... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 7, 9:11 pm, Greg <he... at (no spam) alumni.brown.edu> wrote:
On Aug 5, 8:58 pm, Greg <he... at (no spam) alumni.brown.edu> wrote:
On Jul 29, 2:33 pm, weiying <luweiyin... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
  I once read a paper that describes a heuristic equation for finding
optimal number of hidden neurons. it is: the number of hidden units> > > > > (the number of variables + the number of classes )/2. I forget where
it is. If someone know the source of this equation or some related
work, pleas let me know.

Thank you.

If someone know the source of this equation, DON'T LET ANYONE
KNOW!

The optimal No. can only be found by trial and error. Rules of thumb
like

Neq >> Nw

are helpful. Search the archives using

greg-heath Neq Nw

Of course if Neq >> Nw is not satified, you  can also use

Can you share it with us please.

What do you mean by "it"?

Quote:
I am also working on that but have not gotten headway.

What do you mean by "that"?

Quote:
Early Stopping and/or regularization.

See the FAQ.

Greg-
 
Greg...
Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 8:26 am
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On Aug 22, 3:52 am, baldrick <philbrier... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
Neq >> Nw

Hope his helps.

Not really!!!

unless I start using matlab I presume, which I am not about to. So I
guess I'll remain in the dark ;-(


Confused by your response. What, exactly is your problem.

Greg
 
baldrick...
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:20 am
Guest
On Sep 8, 6:26 pm, Greg <he... at (no spam) alumni.brown.edu> wrote:
Quote:
On Aug 22, 3:52 am, baldrick <philbrier... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:

Neq >> Nw

Hope his helps.

Not really!!!

unless I start using matlab I presume, which I am not about to. So I
guess I'll remain in the dark ;-(

Confused by your response. What, exactly is your problem.

Greg

Neq >> Nw

What does that mean? Is it matlab notation?

The problem is that I have no idea what this means ;-(
 
 
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