Canadian high-tech startup Intelligence Realm is constructing a
distributed virtual brain one computer at a time. Utilizing a
computational model we’ve seen in such projects as SETI at (no spam) Home, the
system will harness the computing power of thousands of machines
throughout the world to achieve its goal.

http://www.syntheticthought.com/st/artificial-intelligence/61/158

Canadian high-tech startup Intelligence Realm is constructing a
distributed virtual brain one computer at a time. Utilizing a
computational model we’ve seen in such projects as SETI at (no spam) Home, the
system will harness the computing power of thousands of machines
throughout the world to achieve its goal.

http://www.syntheticthought.com/st/artificial-intelligence/61/158

On May 31, 3:05 am, "chuck.ril... at (no spam) gmail.com" <chuck.ril... at (no spam) gmail.com
wrote:

Canadian high-tech startup Intelligence Realm is constructing a
distributed virtual brain one computer at a time. Utilizing a
computational model we’ve seen in such projects as SETI at (no spam) Home, the
system will harness the computing power of thousands of machines
throughout the world to achieve its goal.

http://www.syntheticthought.com/st/artificial-intelligence/61/158

The assumption here seems to be that AI is a question of raw computer
power. This has never been the case. AI is a matter of formalizing
knowledge and organising knowledge. There are only two valid AI
BOINCs. Google which will allow you search out any website according
to its content and Wolfram which deals with facts.

Translation is I believe an acid test of AI which is why it is so
important. In my Arabic - English examples, Wolfram gives you the
properties of several different types of concrete. It will also give
you the weather at Aswan. The $64 billion dollar question. Could this
knowledge be used to feed back into a translation. What do I mean by
"understanding"? Understanding must surely be taking the weather
results at Aswan and correlating it with concrete.

On May 31, 3:05 am, "chuck.ril... at (no spam) gmail.com" <chuck.ril... at (no spam) gmail.com
wrote:

Canadian high-tech startup Intelligence Realm is constructing a
distributed virtual brain one computer at a time. Utilizing a
computational model we’ve seen in such projects as SETI at (no spam) Home, the
system will harness the computing power of thousands of machines
throughout the world to achieve its goal.

http://www.syntheticthought.com/st/artificial-intelligence/61/158

The assumption here seems to be that AI is a question of raw computer
power. This has never been the case. AI is a matter of formalizing
knowledge and organising knowledge. There are only two valid AI
BOINCs. Google which will allow you search out any website according
to its content and Wolfram which deals with facts.

Translation is I believe an acid test of AI which is why it is so
important. In my Arabic - English examples, Wolfram gives you the
properties of several different types of concrete. It will also give
you the weather at Aswan. The $64 billion dollar question. Could this
knowledge be used to feed back into a translation. What do I mean by
"understanding"? Understanding must surely be taking the weather
results at Aswan and correlating it with concrete.

  - Ian Parker

On May 31, 7:13 am, Ian Parker <ianpark... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:



On May 31, 3:05 am, "chuck.ril... at (no spam) gmail.com" <chuck.ril... at (no spam) gmail.com
wrote:

Canadian high-tech startup Intelligence Realm is constructing a
distributed virtual brain one computer at a time. Utilizing a
computational model we’ve seen in such projects as SETI at (no spam) Home, the
system will harness the computing power of thousands of machines
throughout the world to achieve its goal.

http://www.syntheticthought.com/st/artificial-intelligence/61/158

The assumption here seems to be that AI is a question of raw computer
power. This has never been the case. AI is a matter of formalizing
knowledge and organising knowledge. There are only two valid AI
BOINCs. Google which will allow you search out any website according
to its content and Wolfram which deals with facts.

Translation is I believe an acid test of AI which is why it is so
important. In my Arabic - English examples, Wolfram gives you the
properties of several different types of concrete. It will also give
you the weather at Aswan. The $64 billion dollar question. Could this
knowledge be used to feed back into a translation. What do I mean by
"understanding"? Understanding must surely be taking the weather
results at Aswan and correlating it with concrete.

  - Ian Parker

ISTM that even though aggregate understanding certainly involves
aspects of the concrete, especially among the "hard" issues, the real
question is whether the results at Aswan correlate with the abstract.

The actual text was "wsT jw AlmErkp or æÓØ Ìæ ÇáãÚÑßÉ " which Google

The assumption here seems to be that AI is a question of raw computer
power. This has never been the case.

AI is a matter of formalizing
knowledge and organising knowledge.

Ian Parker <ianpark... at (no spam) gmail.com> writes:
The assumption here seems to be that AI is a question of raw computer
power. This has never been the case.

Agree.

                                    AI is a matter of formalizing
knowledge and organising knowledge.

And that's never going to work either.

On 31 May, 22:43, Neil W Rickert <rickert... at (no spam) cs.niu.edu> wrote:

Ian Parker <ianpark... at (no spam) gmail.com> writes:
The assumption here seems to be that AI is a question of raw computer
power. This has never been the case.

Agree.

                                    AI is a matter of formalizing
knowledge and organising knowledge.

And that's never going to work either.

What we really need to get our hands round is the following. To be
intelligent you have to know things. You have to know about the
chemistry of concrete, you have to know about the climate round Aswan.

Intelligence I see we could loosely define as the ability to put these
two facts together. We can define it in more precise entropic terms
and I have indeed posted along those very lines. mErkp (possibly
shortened) means (together with knowledge of concrete and the climate
of Aswan) means "The struggle against the climate/environment". I have
NOT abandoned my earlier definition. To translate it as such though
means that you have to put nuggets of knowledge together.

  - Ian Parker

On 31 May, 22:43, Neil W Rickert <rickert... at (no spam) cs.niu.edu> wrote:
Ian Parker <ianpark... at (no spam) gmail.com> writes:

The assumption here seems to be that AI is a question of raw computer
power. This has never been the case.

Agree.

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AI is a matter of formalizing
knowledge and organising knowledge.

And that's never going to work either.

What we really need to get our hands round is the following. To be
intelligent you have to know things. You have to know about the
chemistry of concrete, you have to know about the climate round Aswan.

To be intelligent all you have to do is the find food and shelter,
avoid being eaten and reproduce. If you can do these things then the
organization of knowledge nuggets will take care of itself. There is
no evidence that it works backwards.

Sure. But knowing things requires knowing about how they relate
to reality, and not merely having a organized and formalized store
of sentences (or other symbolic representations).
Agree. For me, Wolfram is more like a motor of knowledge: it is