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| Joachim Pimiskern... |
 Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:11 pm |
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Alex Levitt schrieb:
Quote: I am currently trying to work out all the different types
of knowledge contained in the human mind. I have generated
a list so far which is below, with a short description of
what it is. Ideas of ones I have missed, combined or
is too low level would be appreciated.
You forgot to mention that a person can store
lists of symbols, independent of any intended use.
Regards,
Joachim |
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| rick++... |
| Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:42 pm |
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You might look into the 30-year A.I. effort called CYC.
Its premise was the reason A.I.s or natural language hadnt worked
yet was because no one have assembled a large enough system
of "knowledge", particulary the everyday ordinary facts all humans
keep in the back of their minds.
There has been much debate over the CYC approach.
The part of CYC that relates to this post is its "Ontology".
An Ontology is sort of like a Thesarus - a hierachical taxonomy
of word-concepts. Unlike a Thesarus, CYC's taxonomy is designed
to be computer-practical. I am not sure if CYC's ontology is a good
one,
but I've found it interesting. |
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| Mikus E_... |
| Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 3:21 am |
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Wolf k. must get hives whenever he watches the TV show, “Are You
Smarter than a Fifth-Grader?”
As... How dare they hint that there is nothing wrong with the English
language when it comes to teaching.
Does wolf k. then himself dare to claim that the real obstacle to AI
is the natural human language itself? So thinking and talking in
Esperanto won’t cut it either? And what of the programming language
LISP? ---Has it merely developed an artificial “speech” lisp when it
comes to intelligence?
BTW wolf k., there is something called “future perfect tense”.
Mikus E.
P.S. Intelligence seems invisible to a wiry wolf k.? Heck, I would
think current chat-bots could fool wolf. (Unless of course he used
“sixth-grade” English.) ---Hmmm, but could a basic chat bot ever be
able to register to vote if registration were allowable over the
phone? (I would say yes.) So let’s stop with the periodical slew of
“new” articles that desperately promote that silly Touring test. (---
Let’s stop in artificially extending the “life” of it.) Let’s also
realize that the “halting” problem relates with something entirely
different. (And that it took someone other than Touring himself to
“fix” those “halts”.)
P.P.S. So wolf k., what is the solution to this AI problem? Should all
the people adopt the way of the “new” Democrats? Then no matter what
the subject/question is, no real intelligence would be required for
the reply as only be a pre-recorded “sound bite” should meet the
“test”. ---Such a simple task for the “AI” programmer
then. ...“Houston, we have no problems with that New Democrat AI!”
P.P.P.S. So why is it that the likes of Touring (and wolf k.) befuddle
the adults and not the fifth-graders?
---And no, I am not looking for “11000” posts, ...only if he will
formally acknowledge that he himself thinks the problem is in the
language used to abstrate AI. (---Oh, one step at a time!) |
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