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| themouse... |
 Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:33 pm |
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Hello,
I am not sure this is the best place to ask. Applogies if not.
I am interested in possibly creating a open source desktop compatable
with Windows 3.11 (well as compatable
as one can make) for FreeDos.
Some one mentioned that this project once had a Win16 Compatability
Layer, now gone
but still if there was once one or what you have can run older windows
programs. This may be a good
place to start.
Is there anything that you have, have done or know that could help me?
Basic plan is to have a Windows 3.11 like program
Run as many programs for windows 3.11 as possible.
Have a replacement for all the applications that came shipped with
windows 3.11
plus some extra like a modern web browser, chat, basic utilities etc.
Any advice assistance you have or can give. Is good.
thank you
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| themouse... |
| Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:15 pm |
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Quote: I am somewhat interested in this too, so please keep me updated with
progress that you make with this.
Will do.
FYI I wrote a windowing system for dos many years ago, before
Microsoft
Windows became commonplace. I am looking at reimplementing it in
future on
Unix based systems. (It had better accessibility considerations, and
was
more suitable for automation than current desktop implementations).
Will you be GPLing it?
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| Mark Hobley... |
| Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 1:08 am |
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themouse <usul.the.mouse at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: I am interested in possibly creating a open source desktop compatable
with Windows 3.11 (well as compatable
as one can make) for FreeDos.
I am somewhat interested in this too, so please keep me updated with
progress that you make with this.
FYI I wrote a windowing system for dos many years ago, before Microsoft
Windows became commonplace. I am looking at reimplementing it in future on
Unix based systems. (It had better accessibility considerations, and was
more suitable for automation than current desktop implementations).
Mark.
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| Mark Hobley... |
| Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 3:08 am |
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themouse <usul.the.mouse at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: Will you be GPLing it?
Yes I will, but it will be a while before I get round to recoding it.
Unix is a lot different to DOS, so I have a lot of internals to learn
first, and I have to learn some programming languages, because my
old systems were all written in assembly language and build under MASM.
I am a very strange person that can code in assembly language, but not
in C. That is because I started learning on a 16k home computer with a
build in BASIC interpreter, and used assembly language for speed. When
48k machines became available, it seemed crazy to install a 39k C
compiler, to get just 2k of program space, and have programs run more
slowly than assembly language equivalents, so I never got round to
learning C, although people were selling C compilers. Now I use Unix
like systems and almost everything is in C or C++, so I have
to learn from scratch. Also any assembly language is in AT&T format, and
MASM code needs translation and compilation on a different compiler, so
there is no salvation at this time.
Mark.
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| Rein Klazes... |
| Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:16 am |
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On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 10:33:14 -0700 (PDT), themouse
<usul.the.mouse at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: Hello,
I am not sure this is the best place to ask. Applogies if not.
Best would be the wine developers list. See www.winehq.org/forums for
this and other options.
Quote:
I am interested in possibly creating a open source desktop compatable
with Windows 3.11 (well as compatable
as one can make) for FreeDos.
Some one mentioned that this project once had a Win16 Compatability
Layer, now gone
Not gone, 16 windows and DOS programs are supported (on 32bit systems
anyway).
The 16 bit functions are mostly implemented on top of the 32 bit window
API though, unlike win3.1 which is built on Dos.
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| Rein Klazes... |
| Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:16 am |
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On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 10:33:14 -0700 (PDT), themouse
<usul.the.mouse at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: Hello,
I am not sure this is the best place to ask. Applogies if not.
Best would be the wine developers list. See www.winehq.org/forums for
this and other options.
Quote:
I am interested in possibly creating a open source desktop compatable
with Windows 3.11 (well as compatable
as one can make) for FreeDos.
Some one mentioned that this project once had a Win16 Compatability
Layer, now gone
Not gone, 16 windows and DOS programs are supported (on 32bit systems
anyway).
The 16 bit functions are mostly implemented on top of the 32 bit window
API though, unlike win3.1 which is built on Dos.
Rein. |
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| Mark Hobley... |
| Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 3:08 pm |
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themouse <usul.the.mouse at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: Are you interested in sharing expertise? I will trade you my C\C++ for
your Assembly.
I am always interested in this. The problem is that I am stuck on the
island of Great Britain, over 4500 miles from you on the other side of the
Atlantic ocean, so we can only communicate by email at this time, until I can
get a good conferencing system up and running. Remove the .donottypethisbit
from my contact information to mail me.
Mark.
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