Mladen Gogala wrote:
It has been a long time since I visited the oracle-l for the last time,
I've almost forgotten all about it. I believe it's time to get engaged
with it some more. I'll get a bit more active on this forum and when
someone asks a question that has been discussed many times and is
easily answered by using Google, I will direct him to oracle-l.
Obviously, the list craves for the new members so why not provide them?
You don't have to thank me.




:)

On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:20:08 +0000, Tony Sequeira wrote:
Mladen Gogala wrote:
It has been a long time since I visited the oracle-l for the last time,
I've almost forgotten all about it. I believe it's time to get engaged
with it some more. I'll get a bit more active on  this forum and when
someone asks a question that has been discussed many times and is
easily answered by using Google, I will direct him to oracle-l.
Obviously, the list craves for the new members so why not provide them?
You don't have to thank me.

:)

There were quite a few reactions, some in the form of private emails,
some posted here. All those reactions convinced me that I am hitting the
nerve, so why not keep up the good work?

--http://mgogala.freehos.com

It has been a long time since I visited the oracle-l for the last time,
I've almost forgotten all about it. I believe it's time to get engaged
with it some more. I'll get a bit more active on this forum and when
someone asks a question that has been discussed many times and is easily
answered by using Google, I will direct him to oracle-l. Obviously, the
list craves for the new members so why not provide them? You don't have
to thank me.

On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:20:08 +0000, Tony Sequeira wrote:

Mladen Gogala wrote:
It has been a long time since I visited the oracle-l for the last time,
I've almost forgotten all about it. I believe it's time to get engaged
with it some more. I'll get a bit more active on this forum and when
someone asks a question that has been discussed many times and is
easily answered by using Google, I will direct him to oracle-l.
Obviously, the list craves for the new members so why not provide them?
You don't have to thank me.




:)

There were quite a few reactions, some in the form of private emails,
some posted here. All those reactions convinced me that I am hitting the
nerve, so why not keep up the good work?

On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:20:08 +0000, Tony Sequeira wrote:


There were quite a few reactions, some in the form of private emails,
some posted here. All those reactions convinced me that I am hitting the
nerve, so why not keep up the good work?

What is "oracle-l" exactly?

What is "oracle-l" exactly?

The threat of being sued for a derogatory comment (even a true one)
being made by a list member was something that no-one else wanted to
take on - and you're complaining because you now can't say whatever you
like whenever you like because Steve took on that risk.

What is "oracle-l" exactly?

"Gerard H. Pille"<ghp at (no spam) skynet.be> wrote in message
news:4aec43e5$0$2864$ba620e4c at (no spam) news.skynet.be...

What is "oracle-l" exactly?


It is a community based on a "list-server" which is a
mail-handling program that forwards any email you
send it to anyone who is registered as a recipient.

If you want to see the archive for this October to gauge
the level of participation, you can go to the following link:
http://www.freelists.org/archive/oracle-l/10-2009

You can always simply browse the archive, but if you
want to join the mailing list, start with this link:
http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l

On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:26:54 +0000, Jonathan Lewis wrote:


The threat of being sued for a derogatory comment (even a true one)
being made by a list member was something that no-one else wanted to
take on - and you're complaining because you now can't say whatever you
like whenever you like because Steve took on that risk.


My comments could neither be qualified as libel nor slander so they did
not pose a danger to anyone. Nobody could have sued either me or the
moderator for my comments. I am complaining because I was prevented from
telling lazy ignorants off. It is this "enforcing the morality" that I am
complaining about and that is what turned the oracle-l into a useless
high traffic forum. In addition to that, such danger no longer existed
when he banned me for bad behavior.

My comments could neither be qualified as libel nor slander so they did
not pose a danger to anyone.
....
Things being as they are, I still consider Steve Adams a prudish prick
who has single-handedly destroyed once useful list.

"Mladen Gogala" <gogala.mladen at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:hcihgo$7o6$1 at (no spam) solani.org...
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:26:54 +0000, Jonathan Lewis wrote:


The threat of being sued for a derogatory comment (even a true one)
being made by a list member was something that no-one else wanted to
take on - and you're complaining because you now can't say whatever
you like whenever you like because Steve took on that risk.


My comments could neither be qualified as libel nor slander so they did
not pose a danger to anyone. Nobody could have sued either me or the
moderator for my comments. I am complaining because I was prevented
from telling lazy ignorants off. It is this "enforcing the morality"
that I am complaining about and that is what turned the oracle-l into a
useless high traffic forum. In addition to that, such danger no longer
existed when he banned me for bad behavior.


Let me repeat this bit - since you seem to have missed the point:

----------------------------------------------------------- When
Steve took responsibility for Oracle-L, the previous moderator had
decided to shut it down because of noises begin made in the US
courts about moderators being responsible for all comments made on
such lists.

-----------------------------------------------------------

Steve took on the list when no-one else would. Had it not been for him
the list would have ceased to exist years ago, and there would have been
no need, or opportunity, for you to tell anyone off.

It's his game, if you don't like the rules no-one is going to force you
to play.

I'd be curious to know, though, how long you survived on the
list after he took over.