Coca Cola Bottling Company threw out Oracle and transitioned to UDB, the
artist formerly known as DB2. I've been an outspoken critic of Oracle's
way of doing business for a while now. I am also engaged on a project to
transition several databases from Oracle to PostgreSQL. Maybe that will
force their marketing to change tactics? At the very minimum, they should
give AWR report for free and make their databases cheaper. I'd hate to see
Oracle following in the footsteps of DEC. They were high and mighty, too.

--http://mgogala.freehos.com

UDB, the artist formerly known as DB2.
There never was a product called UDB.

If Oracle follows in the footsteps of DEC, Larry Ellison would buy up
the remaining customers and all the intellectual property of the
flagship database product for pennies on the dollar. His net worth
would putatively drop from $25B to $2B, creating huge paper losses and
carryforward tax losses, so he could get back up to a substantial
percentage of $23B tax free. Numbers extracted from my butt, but
hopefully the concept is clear. It only wouldn't work if he did it on
purpose.

On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 11:16:27 -0700, joel garry wrote:
If Oracle follows in the footsteps of DEC, Larry Ellison would buy up
the remaining customers and all the intellectual property of the
flagship database product for pennies on the dollar.  His net worth
would putatively drop from $25B to $2B, creating huge paper losses and
carryforward tax losses, so he could get back up to a substantial
percentage of $23B tax free.  Numbers extracted from my butt, but
hopefully the concept is clear.  It only wouldn't work if he did it on
purpose.

The problem is, that would signal the death of Oracle RDBMS. I wouldn't
like that to happen. VMS, my favorite OS of all times, has vanished  
because of arrogant marketing policies. DEC was number 2 in the computing
world and it crumbled in a matter of months.

--http://mgogala.freehos.com

Coca Cola Bottling Company threw out Oracle and transitioned to UDB, the
artist formerly known as DB2. I've been an outspoken critic of Oracle's
way of doing business for a while now. I am also engaged on a project to
transition several databases from Oracle to PostgreSQL. Maybe that will
force their marketing to change tactics? At the very minimum, they should
give AWR report for free and make their databases cheaper. I'd hate to see
Oracle following in the footsteps of DEC. They were high and mighty, too.

Coca Cola Bottling Company threw out Oracle and transitioned to UDB, the
artist formerly known as DB2. I've been an outspoken critic of Oracle's
way of doing business for a while now. I am also engaged on a project to
transition several databases from Oracle to PostgreSQL. Maybe that will
force their marketing to change tactics? At the very minimum, they should
give AWR report for free and make their databases cheaper. I'd hate to see
Oracle following in the footsteps of DEC. They were high and mighty, too.

Mladen Gogala wrote:
UDB, the artist formerly known as DB2.
There never was a product called UDB.
It's like talking about "i" (as in 9i) as a placeholder for the Oracle 11g
The UDB addendum has been removed entirely with DB2 9.5 for LUW

Cheers
Serge
--
Serge Rielau
SQL Architect DB2 for LUW
IBM Toronto Lab

Mladen Gogala wrote:
 UDB, the artist formerly known as DB2.

There never was a product called UDB.
It's like talking about "i" (as in 9i) as a placeholder for the Oracle 11g

The UDB addendum has been removed entirely with DB2 9.5 for LUW

Coca Cola Bottling Company threw out Oracle and transitioned to UDB, the
artist formerly known as DB2.

I've been an outspoken critic of Oracle's
way of doing business for a while now.

I am also engaged on a project to
transition several databases from Oracle to PostgreSQL. Maybe that will
force their marketing to change tactics?

At the very minimum, they should
give AWR report for free and make their databases cheaper. I'd hate to see
Oracle following in the footsteps of DEC. They were high and mighty, too.

Unlike 9i, UDB was part of the product name not a version number. Are you
sure you work for Big Blue?
i stands for internet, last I checked i is not a number.

Coca Cola Bottling Company threw out Oracle and transitioned to UDB, the
artist formerly known as DB2. I've been an outspoken critic of Oracle's
way of doing business for a while now. I am also engaged on a project to
transition several databases from Oracle to PostgreSQL. Maybe that will
force their marketing to change tactics? At the very minimum, they should
give AWR report for free and make their databases cheaper. I'd hate to see
Oracle following in the footsteps of DEC. They were high and mighty, too.

--http://mgogala.freehos.com

Ya win some, ya lose some: http://oracle.sys-con.com/node/1126431
"Oracle-based Metadata catalogs"

Unlike 9i, UDB was part of the product name not a version number. Are you
sure you work for Big Blue?
i stands for internet, last I checked i is not a number.
g stands for grid

\UDB stands for Universal Database which in IBM lingo denotes a DB2 family
member that has: user defined distinct types, user defined functions and
LOBs. Since all DB2 family members have those it became pretty meaning
less.
The "UDB" acronym to denote DB2 for LUW is as false as implying Microsoft
SQL Server when saying "I'm using SQL"

And yes, I'm sure I work to IBM and yes I am aware that IBMers are the
misconception as much if not more so than anyone else.
Call it a pet-peeve of mine....

9i is 9.x. It represents a range of verion numbers. "i" stands for internet
but no one thinks it is part of the product name. It's main purpose is
version distinction.
Pity Mark T isn't covering this group anymore. He could set this

\UDB stands for Universal Database which in IBM lingo denotes a DB2 family
member that has: user defined distinct types, user defined functions and
LOBs. Since all DB2 family members have those it became pretty meaning
less.
The "UDB" acronym to denote DB2 for LUW is as false as implying Microsoft
SQL Server when saying "I'm using SQL"


Who said anything about that? I was just saying UDB was at one point part
of the product name.

And yes, I'm sure I work to IBM and yes I am aware that IBMers are the
misconception as much if not more so than anyone else.
Call it a pet-peeve of mine....


Indeed, IBMer are confusing even themselves.