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Homer L. Hazel...
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:55 pm
Guest
Frosty,

Look what I found on the Internet.

http://www.tv.com/mail-call/show/18292/episode.html

At first I thought it actually had episodes you could watch,
but now I don't think so.

I vaguely remember seeing someone demonstrate or try
an atlatl on TV. Cannot remember if it was Gunny or
not.

Larry
 
JJCSR...
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 6:08 pm
Guest
I’m one of those die-hard PICK users who truly enjoy CDP, for news-and-
views of MV. I read most everything, then filter through what might
be meaningful and helpful to me. Not really one of those "PICK
oldies" spoken of earlier, I came into the PICK world in 1984. I
would be considered your typical “MV convert”. Starting in April,
1962, following a 6-month course in EDP, I came through the trenches
of wiring boards for IBM card-oriented equipment (085, 514, 402, 407,
et al); sorting, collating, tabulating; and then programming in
AUTOCODER, RPG, and COBOL. I moved into IT-management in 1969.
Given the state of the economy, and my lack of winning Powerball, I
plan on being around to celebrate a few more years in the IT industry.

My role at my current job began with creating an MIS department, where
before, none existed. My search landed, quite by accident, on PICK-
based software packages for both wholesale and retail entities.
Since the purchase of that software, my employer has become highly
dependent on PICK for its company database and reporting. We
transfer POS sales transactions from a 30-terminal, non-PICK POS
environment into D3. Our web site's shopping cart transactions move
from MySQL on Linux, into PICK on Win2003 Server.

Regardless of the database of origin for any transaction coming into
our shop, the end result is a PICK item. Our retail operation spans
over 100,000 sq. ft of space; Citrix thin-clients are scattered
throughout that space, giving store personnel access to PICK database
inquiries. Two warehouses in two different locations rely, solely,
on PICK for receiving merchandise and transferring between all
locations, using RF equipment - talking to D3, via Visual Basic.

Being able to communicate new ideas and thoughts with people like
those who correspond within CDP is of major interest to me. Like so
many who visit CDP, I am in search of means of making our MV database
even more useful to management here at KTP. I am one of a 2-man MIS
shop, serving the demands and needs of more than 300 employees.
Having a source of Q-and-A available, like CDP, is truly helpful to
me.

In the past month's issue, Esquire magazine published a list of "10
Best Places For Men To Shop". My employer, Kittery Trading Post,
was named "number 1" on that list (I should mention that we are also a
great place to shop for women and children). I thank PICK, in large
part, for giving me the opportunities to aid our staff, through ad hoc
reporting, communication between disparate databases, or by way of any-
time-replenishment tools, in having the goods available to reach such
a plateau.

CDP provides an avenue by which I can enhance the tools provided
within the PICK community.

Jim Cronin
Dir. MIS
Kittery Trading Post
 
mvdbman...
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 9:26 pm
Guest
On Oct 12, 1:08 pm, JJCSR <JCro... at (no spam) ktp.com> wrote:
Quote:
In the past month's issue, Esquire magazine published a list of "10
Best Places For Men To Shop".   My employer,  Kittery Trading Post,
was named "number 1" on that list (I should mention that we are also a
great place to shop for women and children).

Jim Cronin
Dir. MIS
Kittery Trading Post

Have been married twice and having 5 daughters, I believe I won't be
shopping for more women nor children. I have plenty.

*grin*

(Sorry, I just could NOT pass that one up!)

-Bruce H
 
mvdbman...
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 9:29 pm
Guest
On a more serious note, there is another retailer with a
"Pick" (UniVerse) backend. I work for Neiman Marcus.

http://www.linkedin.com/in/mvdbman

-Bruce H
 
frosty...
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:34 am
Guest
Nice web site! You got a secret discount promo code you'd like to
share with us cdp regulars? 25% off that Franchi Highlander would
be nice, just before Christmas. That, and convince my better half
that I need another side-by-side shotgun. I don't have one in 20
gauge... Yeah, that's the ticket.

Seriously, though: encouraging to see a world-class e-tailer using
Pick as the back end.

This part, "...I am one of a 2-man MIS shop, serving the demands
and needs of more than 300 employees." caught my eye; seems to be
the norm for Pick-based shops... but that's another thread.

--
frosty


JJCSR wrote:
Quote:
I’m one of those die-hard PICK users who truly enjoy CDP, for
news-and- views of MV. I read most everything, then filter through
what might be meaningful and helpful to me. Not really one of those
"PICK oldies" spoken of earlier, I came into the PICK world in 1984.
I would be considered your typical “MV convert”. Starting in April,
1962, following a 6-month course in EDP, I came through the trenches
of wiring boards for IBM card-oriented equipment (085, 514, 402, 407,
et al); sorting, collating, tabulating; and then programming in
AUTOCODER, RPG, and COBOL. I moved into IT-management in 1969.
Given the state of the economy, and my lack of winning Powerball, I
plan on being around to celebrate a few more years in the IT industry.

My role at my current job began with creating an MIS department, where
before, none existed. My search landed, quite by accident, on PICK-
based software packages for both wholesale and retail entities.
Since the purchase of that software, my employer has become highly
dependent on PICK for its company database and reporting. We
transfer POS sales transactions from a 30-terminal, non-PICK POS
environment into D3. Our web site's shopping cart transactions move
from MySQL on Linux, into PICK on Win2003 Server.

Regardless of the database of origin for any transaction coming into
our shop, the end result is a PICK item. Our retail operation spans
over 100,000 sq. ft of space; Citrix thin-clients are scattered
throughout that space, giving store personnel access to PICK database
inquiries. Two warehouses in two different locations rely, solely,
on PICK for receiving merchandise and transferring between all
locations, using RF equipment - talking to D3, via Visual Basic.

Being able to communicate new ideas and thoughts with people like
those who correspond within CDP is of major interest to me. Like so
many who visit CDP, I am in search of means of making our MV database
even more useful to management here at KTP. I am one of a 2-man MIS
shop, serving the demands and needs of more than 300 employees.
Having a source of Q-and-A available, like CDP, is truly helpful to
me.

In the past month's issue, Esquire magazine published a list of "10
Best Places For Men To Shop". My employer, Kittery Trading Post,
was named "number 1" on that list (I should mention that we are also a
great place to shop for women and children). I thank PICK, in large
part, for giving me the opportunities to aid our staff, through ad hoc
reporting, communication between disparate databases, or by way of
any- time-replenishment tools, in having the goods available to reach
such a plateau.

CDP provides an avenue by which I can enhance the tools provided
within the PICK community.

Jim Cronin
Dir. MIS
Kittery Trading Post
 
JJCSR...
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:46 pm
Guest
To Frosty and Bruce (mvdbman):

Frosty:

Thanks, much, for the website compliment. I will pass your kind
words on to the appropriate people. Sorry, but I don't have any
secret discount codes. We'd like the additional business, though.

Yes, the "2-man MIS staff" is a very consistant factor with MV-based
shops. In 1987, I founded Northern New England PICK Users
Association, just hoping to find a few other companies in our area
that would like to get together, occasionally, and share information
about PICK. What evolved, very quickly, was a membership consisting
of over 150 companies in all N.E. states except Ct., as they already
had their own group. And, from that 150 companies, by far the vast
majority were small entities, with little or no MIS staff. Most were
using turnkey packages, where VAR's had sold and installed hardware
and PICK-based software, leaving the "office manager" to run the
system. These people showed up at meetings, craving information.

You are also correct about this subject being another thread.


Bruce (mvdbman):

Cute reply about to the "...shop for women and children". Reminds of
the old joke about the guy who told his friend, "I got a fishing rod
for my wife". And, of course, the reply - "Nice trade".

And, Nieman Marcus? We're in nice company, to say the least.

Jim Cronin
Kittery Trading Post
Kittery Maine
 
Ricky Ginsburg...
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:22 pm
Guest
Hey Jim. Do you remember George Capell?

--
Ricky Ginsburg

http://www.fawnridge.com/ricky
(always open!)
"JJCSR" <JCronin at (no spam) ktp.com> wrote in message
news:4bb2370a-366b-4962-956e-2b445ba5e872 at (no spam) s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com...

In the past month's issue, Esquire magazine published a list of "10
Best Places For Men To Shop". My employer, Kittery Trading Post,
was named "number 1" on that list (I should mention that we are also a
great place to shop for women and children). I thank PICK, in large
part, for giving me the opportunities to aid our staff, through ad hoc
reporting, communication between disparate databases, or by way of any-
time-replenishment tools, in having the goods available to reach such
a plateau.

CDP provides an avenue by which I can enhance the tools provided
within the PICK community.

Jim Cronin
Dir. MIS
Kittery Trading Post
 
Art Martz...
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:15 am
Guest
mvdbman wrote:
Quote:
On a more serious note, there is another retailer with a
"Pick" (UniVerse) backend. I work for Neiman Marcus.

http://www.linkedin.com/in/mvdbman

-Bruce H
You might also take a look at www.marketamerica.com for a web site

driven with a UniVerse/Redback back-end.
Art
 
JJCSR...
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:40 pm
Guest
On Oct 14, 12:20 am, Art Martz <artma... at (no spam) triad.rr.com> wrote:

Quote:
You might also take a look atwww.marketamerica.comfor a web site
driven with a UniVerse/Redback back-end.
Art

Thanks for the information, Art. Does "MarketAmerica" use any MV for
the website, itself, or are they doing what I have to do - extract SQL
tables (or any other type of data) and build a PICK (MV) file? Just
curious.

Jim Cronin
Kittery Trading Post
 
JJCSR...
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:42 pm
Guest
On Oct 12, 5:29 pm, mvdbman <mvdb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
On a more serious note, there is another retailer with a
"Pick" (UniVerse) backend. I work for Neiman Marcus.

http://www.linkedin.com/in/mvdbman

-Bruce H

Bruce:

What about the "front-end", the web page, itself? Are you using any
MV-based software for the website, or do you extract tables and build
MV files?

Jim Cronin
Kittery Trading Post
 
eppick77...
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:10 pm
Guest
On Oct 14, 10:40 am, JJCSR <JCro... at (no spam) ktp.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Oct 14, 12:20 am, Art Martz <artma... at (no spam) triad.rr.com> wrote:

You might also take a look atwww.marketamerica.comfora web site
driven with a UniVerse/Redback back-end.
Art

Thanks for the information, Art.   Does "MarketAmerica" use any MV for
the website, itself, or are they doing what I have to do - extract SQL
tables (or any other type of data) and build a PICK (MV) file?    Just
curious.

Jim Cronin
Kittery Trading Post

Jim,

Market America is using ColdFusion for the front end. Redback is
doing the middleware and calling methods which are really pick
subroutines that pass information to it. Typically all the business
rules are being done by the backend Universe programs.

Eugene
 
frosty...
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:04 pm
Guest
Deserves a new thread:

JJCSR wrote:
Quote:
Our web site's shopping cart transactions move
from MySQL on Linux, into PICK on Win2003 Server.
Kittery Trading Post
http://www.kitterytradingpost.com/

mvdbman wrote:
Quote:
On a more serious note, there is another retailer with a
"Pick" (UniVerse) backend. I work for Neiman Marcus.

Art Martz wrote:
Quote:
You might also take a look at www.marketamerica.com for a web site driven
with a UniVerse/Redback back-end.

And to combine the Pick-based e-tail thread with the
disastrous upgrade thread: here's a direct sales company
(that Mark B. should remember) who "upgraded" so that they
could produce this site: www.stjohninc.com


--
frosty
 
Homer L. Hazel...
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:04 pm
Guest
"frosty" <frostyj at (no spam) bogus.tld> wrote in message
news:gOednYclfLj-dUjXnZ2dnUVZ_g-dnZ2d at (no spam) centurytel.net...
Quote:
Deserves a new thread:
And to combine the Pick-based e-tail thread with the
disastrous upgrade thread: here's a direct sales company
(that Mark B. should remember) who "upgraded" so that they
could produce this site: www.stjohninc.com


--
frosty



Just to understand, the St. John site is not a disaster? It is a e-tail
success?

Larry Hazel
 
Art Martz...
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:36 pm
Guest
eppick77 wrote:
Quote:
Market America is using ColdFusion for the front end. Redback is
doing the middleware and calling methods which are really pick
subroutines that pass information to it. Typically all the business
rules are being done by the backend Universe programs.

Eugene

As Eugene said (Hey Eugene!), ColdFusion calls Redback calls a Universe
subroutine, in real time. The images are stored on a separate image
server, and the Universe subroutine tells ColdFusion which images to
fetch for what, and the ColdFusion view knows how and where to display
the images. ColdFusion can also deal with a MV data array set.
Art
 
frosty...
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:33 pm
Guest
Homer L. Hazel wrote:
Quote:

Just to understand, the St. John site is not a disaster? It is a
e-tail success?

If by "success" you mean "makes more money for the company than
it costs to maintain" then I'd say, "Could be."

If by "success" you mean "a model for how to build a site" then
I'd say "you left out the word 'not'."

--
frosty
 
 
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