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Tony Gravagno...
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:55 am
Guest
Quote:
If anyone in the Los Angeles area is interested in a free MV/DeepSee
workshop on October 1, please see the invite below.

Thinking aloud ... This is kinda neat - if I understand it properly
you can buy a database and get a free BI platform, or buy a BI
platform for the cost of a low-cost database license. I dunno what
the licensing requirements are but I'm wondering how many companies
would be interested in using Caché and DeepSee as a near-line
reporting tier for their existing MV app. If you think about it, all
of the other BI platforms out there recommend exporting data from the
live database to another box anyway, most of them using Universe under
the BI tools. In other words, when you buy a BI product you're also
buying UV licenses. With this option you can save, um, something like
$10k to upwards of $50k. It depends on functionality I guess, and I
haven't seen DeepSee for a while so I don't know how it currently
compares to other offerings in this space.

Comments?

T
 
Ross Ferris...
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:50 pm
Guest
On Sep 18, 7:55 am, Tony Gravagno
<address.is.in.po... at (no spam) removethis.com.invalid> wrote:
Quote:
If anyone in the Los Angeles area is interested in a free MV/DeepSee
workshop on October 1, please see the invite below.

Thinking aloud ... This is kinda neat - if I understand it properly
you can buy a database and get a free BI platform, or buy a BI
platform for the cost of a low-cost database license.  I dunno what
the licensing requirements are but I'm wondering how many companies
would be interested in using Caché and DeepSee as a near-line
reporting tier for their existing MV app.  If you think about it, all
of the other BI platforms out there recommend exporting data from the
live database to another box anyway, most of them using Universe under
the BI tools.  In other words, when you buy a BI product you're also
buying UV licenses.  With this option you can save, um, something like
$10k to upwards of $50k.  It depends on functionality I guess, and I
haven't seen DeepSee for a while so I don't know how it currently
compares to other offerings in this space.

Comments?

T

Tony,

Last time I looked, DeepSee was a layered product, so it doesn't come
"free" with the database. With a bit of luck they might record the
event for those of us in the antipodes
 
Jon P Jensen...
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 3:18 pm
Guest
On Sep 18, 9:50 am, Ross Ferris <ro... at (no spam) stamina.com.au> wrote:
Quote:
Last time I looked, DeepSee was a layered product, so it doesn't come
"free" with the database. With a bit of luck they might record the
event for those of us in the antipodes- Hide quoted text -

FYI all

I just want to restate from the orginal invite, if you attend this
free workshop, you will leave the workshop with a free copy of cache
and deepsee (for evaluation use only - not for commercial/production
use) installed on your own laptop for your personal use.

Ross -
feel free to contact our Product Manager, Lee Burstein -
Lee.Burstein at (no spam) intersystems.com, if you have any thoughts or questions
about the workshop (even if a trans-pacific flight is a little long
for a half day work shop 8-)

jon
 
Ross Ferris...
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:33 pm
Guest
On Sep 19, 2:25 am, Tony Gravagno
<address.is.in.po... at (no spam) removethis.com.invalid> wrote:
Quote:
I wasn't expecting the company to provide free commercial licenses and
wasn't even thinking along those lines.  (This is getting funny.)

I don't know the pricing model for DeepSee and (mistakenly according
to Ross and I'll accept that) thought a purchase of Caché would
include use of DeepSee (as Caché includes free CSP, free Zen, free XML
and other libraries, free SQL, free Studio, free transaction handling,
free .NET, free Java, etc etc etc)

Hey Ross, I might go for ya if you send over some vegamite to
compensate me for my time.  I just found (and tossed) a lil package
that you gave out at a show some years ago.  :)

T



Jon P Jensen wrote:
On Sep 18, 9:50 am, Ross Ferris <ro... at (no spam) stamina.com.au> wrote:
Last time I looked, DeepSee was a layered product, so it doesn't come
"free" with the database. With a bit of luck they might record the
event for those of us in the antipodes- Hide quoted text -

FYI all
I just want to restate from the orginal invite, if you attend this
free workshop, you will leave the workshop with a free copy of cache
and deepsee (for evaluation use only - not for commercial/production
use) installed on your own laptop for your personal use.

Ross -
feel free to contact our Product Manager, Lee Burstein -
Lee.Burst... at (no spam) intersystems.com, if you have any thoughts or questions
about the workshop (even if a trans-pacific flight is a little long
for a half day work shop 8-)

jon- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Much as I would like to oblige, shortly after that Spectrum IIRC one
of your government departments went and banned imports of Vegemite ...
then again, they have tried that with Cocaine and other addictive
products too
 
Tony Gravagno...
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 8:25 pm
Guest
I wasn't expecting the company to provide free commercial licenses and
wasn't even thinking along those lines. (This is getting funny.)

I don't know the pricing model for DeepSee and (mistakenly according
to Ross and I'll accept that) thought a purchase of Caché would
include use of DeepSee (as Caché includes free CSP, free Zen, free XML
and other libraries, free SQL, free Studio, free transaction handling,
free .NET, free Java, etc etc etc)

Hey Ross, I might go for ya if you send over some vegamite to
compensate me for my time. I just found (and tossed) a lil package
that you gave out at a show some years ago. :)

T


Jon P Jensen wrote:

Quote:
On Sep 18, 9:50 am, Ross Ferris <ro... at (no spam) stamina.com.au> wrote:
Last time I looked, DeepSee was a layered product, so it doesn't come
"free" with the database. With a bit of luck they might record the
event for those of us in the antipodes- Hide quoted text -

FYI all
I just want to restate from the orginal invite, if you attend this
free workshop, you will leave the workshop with a free copy of cache
and deepsee (for evaluation use only - not for commercial/production
use) installed on your own laptop for your personal use.

Ross -
feel free to contact our Product Manager, Lee Burstein -
Lee.Burstein at (no spam) intersystems.com, if you have any thoughts or questions
about the workshop (even if a trans-pacific flight is a little long
for a half day work shop 8-)

jon
 
Jon P Jensen...
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:14 pm
Guest
On Sep 18, 9:50 am, Ross Ferris <ro... at (no spam) stamina.com.au> wrote:
Quote:
With a bit of luck they might record the
event for those of us in the antipodes

It's not a recording of the workshop, but it is a recording of the
invitation 8-)

See the video invite to the workshop on youtube at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tUCo33r67U

jon
 
 
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