Hello,

Vladimir Vassilevsky pisze:
(...)
I am setting up the web page.



Vladimir Vassilevsky
DSP and Mixed Signal Design Consultant
http://www.abvolt.com

where is this page ?

Best regards

Roman Rumian

On 26 Sep, 22:46, Vladimir Vassilevsky <nos... at (no spam) nowhere.com> wrote:

Before they finally locked him to asylum, he put together the comp.dsp
black list and posted it at his web page. IIRC Jerry Avins was at top of
the list (for racism, sexism and knowing just enough of DSP to be
dangerous). The list became something like a panel of honor of comp.dsp,
  and many folks begged to be included there. Unfortunately, the eBob's
list is no longer available.

Not quite true: the original URL doesn't work, but the Wayback Machine
(internet archive) still has a copy:

http://web.archive.org/web/20040821183513/http://www.netwood.net/~edw...

:-)

For posterity, the list was:

Rick Lyons, ricly... at (no spam) ix.netcom.com, sexism, racism, flaming, spamming
robert bristow-johnson, pbj... at (no spam) viconet.com, flaming
Medical Electronics Lab, ros... at (no spam) physiology.wisc.edu, flaming
Grant Griffin, grant.grif... at (no spam) iowegian.com, flaming, spamming,
trolling, jamming
PeterK at (no spam) delete_this_for_reply_clubi.ie, sexism
Lasse Langwadt Christensen, f... at (no spam) kom.auc.dk, sexism
Jerry Avins, j... at (no spam) ieee.org jyav... at (no spam) erols.com, flaming

Ciao,

Peter "Not so much DSP these days" K.

On 10/23/2009 7:08 AM, Clay wrote:

Whenever I think about Gareth and his posts (and his "blacklist"), I'm
reminded about the old song  "They're Coming to Take Me Away, Ha-
haaa!"

And I do remember the song.  I thought it was a bit creepy when I was a kid.

On Oct 12, 9:50 pm, "Peter K."<koots... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On 26 Sep, 22:46, Vladimir Vassilevsky<nos... at (no spam) nowhere.com> wrote:

Before they finally locked him to asylum, he put together the comp.dsp
black list and posted it at his web page. IIRC Jerry Avins was at top of
the list (for racism, sexism and knowing just enough of DSP to be
dangerous). The list became something like a panel of honor of comp.dsp,
and many folks begged to be included there. Unfortunately, the eBob's
list is no longer available.
Not quite true: the original URL doesn't work, but the Wayback Machine
(internet archive) still has a copy:

http://web.archive.org/web/20040821183513/http://www.netwood.net/~edw...

:-)

For posterity, the list was:

Rick Lyons, ricly... at (no spam) ix.netcom.com, sexism, racism, flaming, spamming
robert bristow-johnson, pbj... at (no spam) viconet.com, flaming
Medical Electronics Lab, ros... at (no spam) physiology.wisc.edu, flaming
Grant Griffin, grant.grif... at (no spam) iowegian.com, flaming, spamming,
trolling, jamming
PeterK at (no spam) delete_this_for_reply_clubi.ie, sexism
Lasse Langwadt Christensen, f... at (no spam) kom.auc.dk, sexism
Jerry Avins, j... at (no spam) ieee.org jyav... at (no spam) erols.com, flaming

Ciao,

Peter "Not so much DSP these days" K.

Whenever I think about Gareth and his posts (and his "blacklist"), I'm
reminded about the old song "They're Coming to Take Me Away, Ha-
haaa!"



Remember when you ran away
And I got on my knees
And begged you not to leave
Because I'd go berserk?
Well. . .

You left me anyhow
And then the days got worse and worse
And now you see I've gone
Completely out of my mind
And. . .

They're coming to take me away, HA HA
They're coming to take me away, HO HO HEE HEE HA HA
To the funny farm
Where life is beautiful all the time
And I'll be happy to see
Those nice, young men
In their clean, white coats
And they're coming to take me away, Ha-haaa!

You thought it was a joke
And so you laughed
You laughed when I had said
That losing you would make me flip my lid
Right. . .

You know you laughed, I heard you laugh
You laughed, you laughed and laughed
And then you left
But now you know I'm utterly mad!
And. . .

They're coming to take me away, HA HA
They're coming to take me away, HO HO HEE HEE HA HA
To the happy home
With trees and flowers and chirping birds
And basket weavers who sit and smile
And twiddle their thumbs and toes
And they're coming to take me away, Ha-haaa!

I cooked your food
I cleaned your house
And this is how you pay me back
For all my kind, unselfish loving deeds?!!
Hah. . .

Well you just wait
They'll find you yet
And when they do they'll
Put you in the ASPCA, you mangy mutt!
And. . .

They're coming to take me away, HA HA
They're coming to take me away, HO HO HEE HEE HA HA
To the funny farm
Where life is beautiful all the time
And I'll be happy to see
Those nice, young men
In their clean, white coats
And they're coming to take me away, Ha-haaa!

To the happy home
With trees and flowers and chirping birds
And basket weavers who sit and smile
And twiddle their thumbs and toes
And they're coming to take me away, Ha-haaa!

To the funny farm
Where life is beautiful all the time
And I'll be happy to see
Those nice, young men
In their clean, white coats
And they're coming to take me away, Ha-haaa!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


I hope he really got help and didn't end up going postal somewhere.
Clay

On 23 Okt, 17:17, Eric Jacobsen <eric.jacob... at (no spam) ieee.org> wrote:
On 10/23/2009 7:08 AM, Clay wrote:

Whenever I think about Gareth and his posts (and his "blacklist"), I'm
reminded about the old song  "They're Coming to Take Me Away, Ha-
haaa!"

And I do remember the song.  I thought it was a bit creepy when I was a kid.

Anyone remember who performed the song? Alice Cooper? Ian Dury?

Minor nit: e.Bob did the blacklist. Gareth (aka, Beanie) wasn't that
creative. e.Bob was in California, Gareth in the UK.
Credit where credit is due and all that.
I wish both of 'em the best. Lots of similarities between those two,
IMHO.
And I do remember the song. I thought it was a bit creepy when I was a
kid.

On 10/23/2009 8:05 PM, Jerry Avins wrote:
Phil O. Sopher wrote:
"Eric Jacobsen" <eric.jacobsen at (no spam) ieee.org> wrote in message
news:uOjEm.15749$NE1.9209 at (no spam) newsfe18.iad...

Minor nit: e.Bob did the blacklist. Gareth (aka, Beanie) wasn't that
creative. e.Bob was in California, Gareth in the UK.
Credit where credit is due and all that.
I wish both of 'em the best. Lots of similarities between those two,
IMHO.
And I do remember the song. I thought it was a bit creepy when I was
a kid.

Is it not the case that "Beanie" highlighted some fundamental error
present in most textbooks relating to sampling, and merely stuck
to his guns, finally arriving at a solution 2 or 3 years ago?

No. IIRC, he claimed that the sampling theorem was invalid because
impulses can't physically exist.

Is it not also the case that a number of the regular contributors, many
of whom were gratuitously unpleasant to "Beanie" had also expressed
concern upon that very point some years before Beanie's appearance
on the scene?

No. The claim was (and is) that impulses have dimension that, if ignored
require the gratuitous introduction ov magical factors.

Jerry

That's my recollection as well, that he was hung up about the
abstraction of a certain impulse mathematical model not being realizable
(or something, maybe it was an inconsistency with another model, I don't
remember) and therefore many fundamental theories (such as sampling)
were, he thought, therefore wrong.

Despite many people here (and several on forums other than comp.dsp)
trying to guide him around his error, his insistence grew to the point
of hysteria, in my estimation. Like e.Bob, he then resorted to regular,
and very predictable, character assassination, which seems to be the
modus operandi of such people (e.g., most recently Jimmy J).

I'm trying to remember whether it was Gareth or e.Bob that started
calling people's employers and complaining about their behavior toward
him on comp.dsp. I thought that was pretty desperate.

Eric Jacobsen wrote:
On 10/23/2009 8:05 PM, Jerry Avins wrote:
Phil O. Sopher wrote:
"Eric Jacobsen" <eric.jacobsen at (no spam) ieee.org> wrote in message
news:uOjEm.15749$NE1.9209 at (no spam) newsfe18.iad...

Minor nit: e.Bob did the blacklist. Gareth (aka, Beanie) wasn't that
creative. e.Bob was in California, Gareth in the UK.
Credit where credit is due and all that.
I wish both of 'em the best. Lots of similarities between those two,
IMHO.
And I do remember the song. I thought it was a bit creepy when I was
a kid.

Is it not the case that "Beanie" highlighted some fundamental error
present in most textbooks relating to sampling, and merely stuck
to his guns, finally arriving at a solution 2 or 3 years ago?

No. IIRC, he claimed that the sampling theorem was invalid because
impulses can't physically exist.

Is it not also the case that a number of the regular contributors, many
of whom were gratuitously unpleasant to "Beanie" had also expressed
concern upon that very point some years before Beanie's appearance
on the scene?

No. The claim was (and is) that impulses have dimension that, if ignored
require the gratuitous introduction ov magical factors.

Jerry

That's my recollection as well, that he was hung up about the
abstraction of a certain impulse mathematical model not being
realizable (or something, maybe it was an inconsistency with another
model, I don't remember) and therefore many fundamental theories (such
as sampling) were, he thought, therefore wrong.

Despite many people here (and several on forums other than comp.dsp)
trying to guide him around his error, his insistence grew to the point
of hysteria, in my estimation. Like e.Bob, he then resorted to
regular, and very predictable, character assassination, which seems to
be the modus operandi of such people (e.g., most recently Jimmy J).

I'm trying to remember whether it was Gareth or e.Bob that started
calling people's employers and complaining about their behavior toward
him on comp.dsp. I thought that was pretty desperate.

I think that was Gareth. English defamation laws are pretty severe. Rte
word was that he was jailed for a while.

Jerry

Phil O. Sopher wrote:
"Eric Jacobsen" <eric.jacobsen at (no spam) ieee.org> wrote in message
news:uOjEm.15749$NE1.9209 at (no spam) newsfe18.iad...

Minor nit: e.Bob did the blacklist. Gareth (aka, Beanie) wasn't that
creative. e.Bob was in California, Gareth in the UK.
Credit where credit is due and all that.
I wish both of 'em the best. Lots of similarities between those two,
IMHO.
And I do remember the song. I thought it was a bit creepy when I was
a kid.

Is it not the case that "Beanie" highlighted some fundamental error
present in most textbooks relating to sampling, and merely stuck
to his guns, finally arriving at a solution 2 or 3 years ago?

No. IIRC, he claimed that the sampling theorem was invalid because
impulses can't physically exist.

Is it not also the case that a number of the regular contributors, many
of whom were gratuitously unpleasant to "Beanie" had also expressed
concern upon that very point some years before Beanie's appearance
on the scene?

No. The claim was (and is) that impulses have dimension that, if ignored
require the gratuitous introduction ov magical factors.

Jerry

"Eric Jacobsen" <eric.jacobsen at (no spam) ieee.org> wrote in message
news:uOjEm.15749$NE1.9209 at (no spam) newsfe18.iad...

Minor nit: e.Bob did the blacklist. Gareth (aka, Beanie) wasn't that
creative. e.Bob was in California, Gareth in the UK.
Credit where credit is due and all that.
I wish both of 'em the best. Lots of similarities between those two,
IMHO.
And I do remember the song. I thought it was a bit creepy when I was a
kid.

Is it not the case that "Beanie" highlighted some fundamental error
present in most textbooks relating to sampling, and merely stuck
to his guns, finally arriving at a solution 2 or 3 years ago?

Is it not also the case that a number of the regular contributors, many
of whom were gratuitously unpleasant to "Beanie" had also expressed
concern upon that very point some years before Beanie's appearance
on the scene?

On 10/23/2009 7:08 AM, Clay wrote:





On Oct 12, 9:50 pm, "Peter K."<koots... at (no spam) gmail.com>  wrote:
On 26 Sep, 22:46, Vladimir Vassilevsky<nos... at (no spam) nowhere.com>  wrote:

Before they finally locked him to asylum, he put together the comp.dsp
black list and posted it at his web page. IIRC Jerry Avins was at top of
the list (for racism, sexism and knowing just enough of DSP to be
dangerous). The list became something like a panel of honor of comp.dsp,
   and many folks begged to be included there. Unfortunately, the eBob's
list is no longer available.
Not quite true: the original URL doesn't work, but the Wayback Machine
(internet archive) still has a copy:

http://web.archive.org/web/20040821183513/http://www.netwood.net/~edw....

:-)

For posterity, the list was:

Rick Lyons, ricly... at (no spam) ix.netcom.com, sexism, racism, flaming, spamming
robert bristow-johnson, pbj... at (no spam) viconet.com, flaming
Medical Electronics Lab, ros... at (no spam) physiology.wisc.edu, flaming
Grant Griffin, grant.grif... at (no spam) iowegian.com, flaming, spamming,
trolling, jamming
PeterK at (no spam) delete_this_for_reply_clubi.ie, sexism
Lasse Langwadt Christensen, f... at (no spam) kom.auc.dk, sexism
Jerry Avins, j... at (no spam) ieee.org jyav... at (no spam) erols.com, flaming

Ciao,

Peter "Not so much DSP these days" K.

Whenever I think about Gareth and his posts (and his "blacklist"), I'm
reminded about the old song  "They're Coming to Take Me Away, Ha-
haaa!"

Remember when you ran away
And I got on my knees
And begged you not to leave
Because I'd go berserk?
Well. . .

You left me anyhow
And then the days got worse and worse
And now you see I've gone
Completely out of my mind
And. . .

They're coming to take me away, HA HA
They're coming to take me away, HO HO HEE HEE HA HA
To the funny farm
Where life is beautiful all the time
And I'll be happy to see
Those nice, young men
In their clean, white coats
And they're coming to take me away, Ha-haaa!

You thought it was a joke
And so you laughed
You laughed when I had said
That losing you would make me flip my lid
Right. . .

You know you laughed, I heard you laugh
You laughed, you laughed and laughed
And then you left
But now you know I'm utterly mad!
And. . .

They're coming to take me away, HA HA
They're coming to take me away, HO HO HEE HEE HA HA
To the happy home
With trees and flowers and chirping birds
And basket weavers who sit and smile
And twiddle their thumbs and toes
And they're coming to take me away, Ha-haaa!

I cooked your food
I cleaned your house
And this is how you pay me back
For all my kind, unselfish loving deeds?!!
Hah. . .

Well you just wait
They'll find you yet
And when they do they'll
Put you in the ASPCA, you mangy mutt!
And. . .

They're coming to take me away, HA HA
They're coming to take me away, HO HO HEE HEE HA HA
To the funny farm
Where life is beautiful all the time
And I'll be happy to see
Those nice, young men
In their clean, white coats
And they're coming to take me away, Ha-haaa!

To the happy home
With trees and flowers and chirping birds
And basket weavers who sit and smile
And twiddle their thumbs and toes
And they're coming to take me away, Ha-haaa!

To the funny farm
Where life is beautiful all the time
And I'll be happy to see
Those nice, young men
In their clean, white coats
And they're coming to take me away, Ha-haaa!

---------------------------------------------------------------------------­-----------------------------------

I hope he really got help and didn't end up going postal somewhere.
Clay

Minor nit:   e.Bob did the blacklist.  Gareth (aka, Beanie) wasn't that
creative.  e.Bob was in California, Gareth in the UK.

Credit where credit is due and all that.  ;)

I wish both of 'em the best.  Lots of similarities between those two, IMHO.

And I do remember the song.  I thought it was a bit creepy when I was a kid.

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Eric Jacobsen
Minister of Algorithms
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