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| hbkeultjes... |
 Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 4:26 pm |
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We are about to try that and wondering if anybody else is doing that?
Henry Keultjes
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| Tony Gravagno... |
| Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:55 am |
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hbkeultjes wrote:
Quote: We are about to try that and wondering if anybody else is doing that?
I'm curious about exactly where you plan to store various types of
information. With the NebulaMail POP3 client (no longer actively
marketed) I pulled email from email servers and stored it all in MV
files - the platform is unimportant. For my own purposes (not a part
of the default product but a utility I built around my own product) I
parsed the email to separate files so that I could filter, search,
sort, and generate various types of notifications based on header
fields and content. Is that what you're thinking about doing? What
does Kubuntu have to do with it?
Good luck,
T |
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| hbkeultjes... |
| Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:26 pm |
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Actually, Tony, the intention is to use Sidux because they have a
specific KDE Lite version for AMD 64
I tend to archive most of my emails and I miss the ability to use
"English" to find what I want when I want it, rather than having to
preorganize it like you do.
While I am not the techy, I assume that the POP3 stuff will be done by
KMail and some Pick code will dump it from there into the OpenQM files
that will have from/to/ that will be correlatives and subject and such
that will be straight text so that I can use my old Pick Entity file.
I am not sure how useful the Nebula code would be but if you want Tom
d to experiment with it and report back on this forum, email it to me.
Henry
On Aug 26, 2:55 am, Tony Gravagno
<address.is.in.po... at (no spam) removethis.com.invalid> wrote:
Quote: hbkeultjes wrote:
We are about to try that and wondering if anybody else is doing that?
I'm curious about exactly where you plan to store various types of
information. With the NebulaMail POP3 client (no longer actively
marketed) I pulled email from email servers and stored it all in MV
files - the platform is unimportant. For my own purposes (not a part
of the default product but a utility I built around my own product) I
parsed the email to separate files so that I could filter, search,
sort, and generate various types of notifications based on header
fields and content. Is that what you're thinking about doing? What
does Kubuntu have to do with it?
Good luck,
T |
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| hbkeultjes... |
| Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 3:46 am |
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Although I have been on the Richard Stallman's rant "NO Word
Attachments!!" for a long time and I do not use html email, has not
Pick had the ability to store blobs for a long long time?
This brings me back to the OpenQM issue. When it was Open Sourced it
was with the intention and the hope that it would be a two-way street
and certainly Tom DeLombarde has done that. This is the kind of
application that could give OpenQM and Pick much wider exposure by
letting it function as an Entity database in the much bigger KDE
environment so I am hoping that others will join me in this
experiment, especially if you are will to use SIDUX/KDE or Debian
stable with KDE. The reason I am trying to use SIDUX is because it
has a specific AMD-64 version eliminates a lot of code that is Intel
specific and other junk that are just pathways for hackers to get in.
Especially as things like Palm and Blackberry's are becoming more
popular, the extremely compact Pick database concept could find a
reentry into the main stream market and OpenQM is, as far as I know,
the only version that is acceptable to the Open Source community.
Henry
On Aug 28, 8:09 pm, "Peter McMurray" <excalibu... at (no spam) bigpond.com> wrote:
Quote: Hi
I can see that it is quite straight forward to save an email as text from
Outlook Express - presumably other mail packages do a similar thing - but
how do you intend to deal with attachments?
Peter McMurray"hbkeultjes" <hbkeult... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message |
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| Peter McMurray... |
| Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 4:09 am |
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Hi
I can see that it is quite straight forward to save an email as text from
Outlook Express - presumably other mail packages do a similar thing - but
how do you intend to deal with attachments?
Peter McMurray
"hbkeultjes" <hbkeultjes at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1583eda9-4f98-4469-9869-81660d2d5a7d at (no spam) o36g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
Actually, Tony, the intention is to use Sidux because they have a
specific KDE Lite version for AMD 64
I tend to archive most of my emails and I miss the ability to use
"English" to find what I want when I want it, rather than having to
preorganize it like you do.
While I am not the techy, I assume that the POP3 stuff will be done by
KMail and some Pick code will dump it from there into the OpenQM files
that will have from/to/ that will be correlatives and subject and such
that will be straight text so that I can use my old Pick Entity file.
I am not sure how useful the Nebula code would be but if you want Tom
d to experiment with it and report back on this forum, email it to me.
Henry
On Aug 26, 2:55 am, Tony Gravagno
<address.is.in.po... at (no spam) removethis.com.invalid> wrote:
Quote: hbkeultjes wrote:
We are about to try that and wondering if anybody else is doing that?
I'm curious about exactly where you plan to store various types of
information. With the NebulaMail POP3 client (no longer actively
marketed) I pulled email from email servers and stored it all in MV
files - the platform is unimportant. For my own purposes (not a part
of the default product but a utility I built around my own product) I
parsed the email to separate files so that I could filter, search,
sort, and generate various types of notifications based on header
fields and content. Is that what you're thinking about doing? What
does Kubuntu have to do with it?
Good luck,
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| Kevin Powick... |
| Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 11:56 pm |
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On Aug 29, 6:34 pm, "Peter McMurray" <excalibu... at (no spam) bigpond.com> wrote:
Quote: Hey we agree on all points 
WTF just happened?
For what it's worth. Good reply T. I agree too.
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| Tony Gravagno... |
| Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 2:04 am |
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hbkeultjes wrote:
Quote: I am not sure how useful the Nebula code would be but if you want Tom
d to experiment with it and report back on this forum, email it to me.
Please allow me first to clarify that NebulaMail never was or will be
open source. It's much more than just a wrapper for Blat or sendmail,
and I put at least a hundred hours into it. I need to be compensated
for such efforts. Products that don't earn their keep on the shelf
are retired and I move on to others - but I don't publish my source.
However, what's funny here (in a sick sort of way) is that even if
NebulaMail were open source, you're not even offering to look at it or
contribute to the base on your own - you're volunteering someone else
to do it for you. Man, that just epitomizes the nature of this "gimme
free stuff" FOSS mentality, where free-as-in-liberty stuff is always
confused with free-as-in-beer.
My simple response is: Pay my mortgage and I'll give you all the
"free" source you can handle. And I'm curious what Tom would say
about you volunteering his time as well.
I've said before, I like the idea of FLOSS, I just don't like how it's
interpreted by the masses.
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| hbkeultjes... |
| Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:31 am |
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Tony:
Since I am not a programmer, my contributions would be worthless..
However, since you emphasize that Nebulamail will never ne Open Source
it is a moot point.
At this point we have SIDUX and KDE reinstalled and I will start
experimenting with KMail. We have a a huge list of old Pick users
that Eugene Perry will use to come up with names for the new Ohio Pick
Users Group.
Henry
On Aug 29, 6:04 pm, Tony Gravagno
<address.is.in.po... at (no spam) removethis.com.invalid> wrote:
Quote: hbkeultjes wrote:
I am not sure how useful the Nebula code would be but if you want Tom
d to experiment with it and report back on this forum, email it to me.
Please allow me first to clarify that NebulaMail never was or will be
open source. It's much more than just a wrapper for Blat or sendmail,
and I put at least a hundred hours into it. I need to be compensated
for such efforts. Products that don't earn their keep on the shelf
are retired and I move on to others - but I don't publish my source.
However, what's funny here (in a sick sort of way) is that even if
NebulaMail were open source, you're not even offering to look at it or
contribute to the base on your own - you're volunteering someone else
to do it for you. Man, that just epitomizes the nature of this "gimme
free stuff" FOSS mentality, where free-as-in-liberty stuff is always
confused with free-as-in-beer.
My simple response is: Pay my mortgage and I'll give you all the
"free" source you can handle. And I'm curious what Tom would say
about you volunteering his time as well.
I've said before, I like the idea of FLOSS, I just don't like how it's
interpreted by the masses.
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