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| Crushed_Ice... |
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:12 am |
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It is a point to consider , that the Turing Award went to someone in the
field known as model checking. A publiched book carried that information
see.. "The method, which was awarded the 1998 ACM Paris Kanellakis Award for
Theory and Practice, has been used successfully in practice to verify real
industrial designs, and companies are beginning to market commercial model
checkers."
"Model checking is a technique for verifying finite state concurrent systems
such as sequential circuit designs and communication protocols. It has a
number of advantages over traditional approaches that are based on
simulation, testing, and deductive reasoning. In particular, model checking
is automatic and usually quite fast. "
The book by Edmund Clarke has been published at MIT Press.
My recent inquiry of study has been along the lines of data mining, and
recently with questions of systems design. Some discoveries on the design
of a system ar that 70% of the resurces will be used maintaing any system,.
Most of the invented systems require our service, rather than being our
servants, in those respects. The other 30% probably compensates. Also some
ideas of readaptability using feedback taken from the output, similar to a
jst engine's afterburner which pipes steaaming hot exhaust back into the
turbine to reburn superexhaust heat with added new fuel (its wide open),
with the afterburner running hot.
An so do your shelves yield model checking information. The book seems to
be what I need, but I could be throwing $75 bucks into the abyss. The
inteerest that I have with this book is the inclusion of self debugging
systems which use methods similar to feedback, to reposition themselves
perhaps. Like the professor writes here, about using compiler to take data
as input, to recompile accordingly. This is dsomething like "If I can make
it there, I'll make it anywhere".. come on, Come through...
NYC..... New York ... Hit OK , then OK. Check the models on the shelves.
I am an expert programmer. I think Yourdon might have something about a
self referential model.
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| Crushed_Ice... |
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:17 am |
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I learn a good deal from almost every book that I read. Although I have
bought about 7 books on How to Program Visual Basic, and I still can't write
a decent program. using that book or Microsoft Visual Basic language. And I
reading some books which are stating, it is not really possible to write
anything without having an inspection team to test your work for you. No
one can really do the criticism of himself (as programmer), any justice.
A whole school of people in the data mining camp, do not trust their
appreciation of stored data either. They just consider everything that
happens to be in a coud, and then they write a botnet program or something
to work out the details. Anything they write as a proposal is "We don't
know anything".
That reminds me of that televicsion show where the characters write a
proposal for a television show about nothing. So we go in there and the
pruducer says, "Well what's your television show about?" And we say,
"Nothing, We dont have any idea!"
Ok then Ok there's salsa and hula girls in the beer tent. Watch your
purses.
"Crushed_Ice" <slipandslide at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:-_ednYFC1Oa8E-PXnZ2dnUVZ_oadnZ2d at (no spam) hbci.com...
Quote: "Model checking is a technique for verifying finite state concurrent
systems
such as sequential circuit designs and communication protocols. It has a
number of advantages over traditional approaches that are based on
simulation, testing, and deductive reasoning. In particular, model
checking
is automatic and usually quite fast. "
The book by Edmund Clarke has been published at MIT Press.
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| Crushed_Ice... |
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:17 am |
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It's just software, not the monolith.
The answer is to refer to all of the design tips that you can find, before
creating the design model.
"Crushed_Ice" <slipandslide at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:isadnbLudpOpqB_XnZ2dnUVZ_gadnZ2d at (no spam) hbci.com...
Quote: I learn a good deal from almost every book that I read. Although I have
bought about 7 books on How to Program Visual Basic, and I still can't
write
a decent program. using that book or Microsoft Visual Basic language. And
I
reading some books which are stating, it is not really possible to write
anything without having an inspection team to test your work for you. No
one can really do the criticism of himself (as programmer), any justice.
A whole school of people in the data mining camp, do not trust their
appreciation of stored data either. They just consider everything that
happens to be in a coud, and then they write a botnet program or something
to work out the details. Anything they write as a proposal is "We don't
know anything".
That reminds me of that televicsion show where the characters write a
proposal for a television show about nothing. So we go in there and the
pruducer says, "Well what's your television show about?" And we say,
"Nothing, We dont have any idea!"
Ok then Ok there's salsa and hula girls in the beer tent. Watch your
purses.
"Crushed_Ice" <slipandslide at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:-_ednYFC1Oa8E-PXnZ2dnUVZ_oadnZ2d at (no spam) hbci.com...
"Model checking is a technique for verifying finite state concurrent
systems
such as sequential circuit designs and communication protocols. It has a
number of advantages over traditional approaches that are based on
simulation, testing, and deductive reasoning. In particular, model
checking
is automatic and usually quite fast. "
The book by Edmund Clarke has been published at MIT Press.
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| Crushed_Ice... |
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 1:14 am |
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I just got my own joke. The hula girls in the tent that is. You will be
the hula girl in the tent, with the beer and salsa. Watch your purses.
"Crushed_Ice" <slipandslide at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:15GdnbmViqISWhXXnZ2dnUVZ_sKdnZ2d at (no spam) hbci.com...
Quote: It's just software, not the monolith.
The answer is to refer to all of the design tips that you can find, before
creating the design model.
"Crushed_Ice" <slipandslide at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:isadnbLudpOpqB_XnZ2dnUVZ_gadnZ2d at (no spam) hbci.com...
I learn a good deal from almost every book that I read. Although I have
bought about 7 books on How to Program Visual Basic, and I still can't
write
a decent program. using that book or Microsoft Visual Basic language.
And
I
reading some books which are stating, it is not really possible to write
anything without having an inspection team to test your work for you.
No
one can really do the criticism of himself (as programmer), any justice.
A whole school of people in the data mining camp, do not trust their
appreciation of stored data either. They just consider everything that
happens to be in a coud, and then they write a botnet program or
something
to work out the details. Anything they write as a proposal is "We don't
know anything".
That reminds me of that televicsion show where the characters write a
proposal for a television show about nothing. So we go in there and the
pruducer says, "Well what's your television show about?" And we say,
"Nothing, We dont have any idea!"
Ok then Ok there's salsa and hula girls in the beer tent. Watch your
purses.
"Crushed_Ice" <slipandslide at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:-_ednYFC1Oa8E-PXnZ2dnUVZ_oadnZ2d at (no spam) hbci.com...
"Model checking is a technique for verifying finite state concurrent
systems
such as sequential circuit designs and communication protocols. It has
a
number of advantages over traditional approaches that are based on
simulation, testing, and deductive reasoning. In particular, model
checking
is automatic and usually quite fast. "
The book by Edmund Clarke has been published at MIT Press.
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