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limtc...
Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 10:53 am
Guest
Hi,

I know this is the wrong forum to ask - but I am using this PowerMac
7200 for my Apple II "disk convertor" - I primary use it to create
3.5" disks for my Apple IIGS to use, based on the disk images I have
collected from Internet. However, the monitor is now dead, and I can't
create new disks... and I don't read Mac forum...

I do have a spare VGA monitor that I can use, but what type of cable
can I buy for this PowerMac to connect to VGA monitor?

Thanks!
 
Steven Hirsch...
Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 4:14 pm
Guest
limtc wrote:
Quote:
Hi,

I know this is the wrong forum to ask - but I am using this PowerMac
7200 for my Apple II "disk convertor" - I primary use it to create
3.5" disks for my Apple IIGS to use, based on the disk images I have
collected from Internet. However, the monitor is now dead, and I can't
create new disks... and I don't read Mac forum...

I do have a spare VGA monitor that I can use, but what type of cable
can I buy for this PowerMac to connect to VGA monitor?

You need a little converter to plug the high-density 15-pin plug on the VGA
monitor into the low-density 15-pin connector on the Mac. This is an
extremely common item. Try eBay, followed by some of the larger cable
suppliers.
 
PZ...
Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 6:14 pm
Guest
On May 9, 6:14燼m, Steven Hirsch <snhir... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
limtc wrote:
Hi,

I know this is the wrong forum to ask - but I am using this PowerMac
7200 for my Apple II "disk convertor" - I primary use it to create
3.5" disks for my Apple IIGS to use, based on the disk images I have
collected from Internet. However, the monitor is now dead, and I can't
create new disks... and I don't read Mac forum...

I do have a spare VGA monitor that I can use, but what type of cable
can I buy for this PowerMac to connect to VGA monitor?

You need a little converter to plug the high-density 15-pin plug on the VGA
monitor into the low-density 15-pin connector on the Mac. 燭his is an
extremely common item. 燭ry eBay, followed by some of the larger cable
suppliers.

search "mac to vga db15" on ebay.

http://shop.ebay.com/items/?_nkw=mac+to+vga+db15&_sacat=0&_trksid=p3286.m270.l1313&_odkw=mac+to+vga+-dvi+-tv&_osacat=0

good luck.
- Paul
 
Greg Buchner...
Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 10:20 pm
Guest
In article
<b3650a3d-a085-48b5-af62-9f554943e938 at (no spam) z16g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
limtc <thyechean at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
I know this is the wrong forum to ask - but I am using this PowerMac
7200 for my Apple II "disk convertor" - I primary use it to create
3.5" disks for my Apple IIGS to use, based on the disk images I have
collected from Internet. However, the monitor is now dead, and I can't
create new disks... and I don't read Mac forum...

I do have a spare VGA monitor that I can use, but what type of cable
can I buy for this PowerMac to connect to VGA monitor?

You need to find a Mac/VGA Adapter. I have a couple in use, but found
these:

http://www.welovemacs.com/adp-7100.html

http://www.welovemacs.com/adp-7300.html

The one with the DIP switches lets you have a bit more control over the
available resolutions, but I've never had a problem using the simple
ones like the first one listed.

They do ship overseas from the look of it, so you'll have to see if the
shipping costs are also worth it.

Greg

--
Actual e-mail address is gregbuchner and I'm located at gmail.com
 
Steven Hirsch...
Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 12:10 am
Guest
Greg Buchner wrote:

Quote:
The one with the DIP switches lets you have a bit more control over the
available resolutions, but I've never had a problem using the simple
ones like the first one listed.

Doesn't the control panel on the Mac permit you to manually select what would
otherwise be automagically determined by reading the DIP switches?
 
limtc...
Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 12:37 am
Guest
Any idea for a PowerMac 7200? Does this one need a dip switch for
resolution switching?

On 5月10日, 上午8时34分, demp... at (no spam) actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) wrote:

Quote:
Some really old Macs only support fixed sizes, so you'd need the adapter
with DIP switches if you were using a late 1980s or early 1990s era Mac.
I seem to recall that the original Mac LC (1990) falls into this camp. A
more modern Mac like a Quadra or PowerMac should be fine with multiscan,
and I'd expect the unswitched adapter to work.

--
David Empson
demp... at (no spam) actrix.gen.nz
 
David Empson...
Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 4:34 am
Guest
Steven Hirsch <snhirsch at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
Greg Buchner wrote:

The one with the DIP switches lets you have a bit more control over the
available resolutions, but I've never had a problem using the simple
ones like the first one listed.

Doesn't the control panel on the Mac permit you to manually select what would
otherwise be automagically determined by reading the DIP switches?

The DIP switches tell the Mac the resolution of the screen. Some
settings are fixed resolutions, and some indicate a multi-resolution
monitor. If you choose a multi-resolution setting, you will be able to
select the resolution in the control panel.

Some really old Macs only support fixed sizes, so you'd need the adapter
with DIP switches if you were using a late 1980s or early 1990s era Mac.
I seem to recall that the original Mac LC (1990) falls into this camp. A
more modern Mac like a Quadra or PowerMac should be fine with multiscan,
and I'd expect the unswitched adapter to work.

--
David Empson
dempson at (no spam) actrix.gen.nz
 
David Empson...
Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 5:15 am
Guest
limtc <thyechean at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
Any idea for a PowerMac 7200? Does this one need a dip switch for
resolution switching?

Probably not. It is a 1995ish model, much newer than the LC and Quadra,
so well into the era where multi-scan monitors were common.

I don't have any unswitched adapters, but I do have a 7200 sitting
around which belongs to my user group (unused for about ten years). It
has a third party monitor with the Mac connector, I think, but I could
try it with my switched adapter in a multi-scan mode. If that works,
your 7200 should be fine with an unswitched adapter. (Assuming the
computer still works, of course.)

The monitor may be a bigger issue. One of my switched adapters has two
rows of 8 switches, and its settings include issues like whether to
supply composite sync, or separate horizontal and vertical sync, and
which pins they go on. Some monitors may only handle certain settings.

Quote:
On 5?10?, ??8?34?, demp... at (no spam) actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) wrote:

Some really old Macs only support fixed sizes, so you'd need the adapter
with DIP switches if you were using a late 1980s or early 1990s era Mac.
I seem to recall that the original Mac LC (1990) falls into this camp. A
more modern Mac like a Quadra or PowerMac should be fine with multiscan,
and I'd expect the unswitched adapter to work.

--
David Empson
dempson at (no spam) actrix.gen.nz
 
limtc...
Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 6:01 am
Guest
On 5月10日, 上午11时26分, Michael Black <et... at (no spam) ncf.ca> wrote:
Quote:
On Sat, 9 May 2009, limtc wrote:
Any idea for a PowerMac 7200? Does this one need a dip switch for
resolution switching?

Keep in mind that the adaptors are just the two needed connectors,
and a set of switches. There is nothing to prevent someone from wiring
up two connectors properly, and then wiring the needed pins to a fixed
format. The switches just make it easier. Old books would have
the information about the adapters, and I would assume a websearch
would turn it up too.

Thanks! Hardware side is beyond me... I do hope to find such cable in
Singapore though...
 
pitz...
Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 5:11 pm
Guest
On May 9, 11:01 pm, limtc <thyech... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
On 5月10日, 上午11时26分, Michael Black <et... at (no spam) ncf.ca> wrote:

On Sat, 9 May 2009, limtc wrote:
Any idea for a PowerMac 7200? Does this one need a dip switch for
resolution switching?

Keep in mind that the adaptors are just the two needed connectors,
and a set of switches. There is nothing to prevent someone from wiring
up two connectors properly, and then wiring the needed pins to a fixed
format. The switches just make it easier. Old books would have
the information about the adapters, and I would assume a websearch
would turn it up too.

Thanks! Hardware side is beyond me... I do hope to find such cable in
Singapore though...

If you can't find one locally, let me know and I'll send you one.
I've got several in my box that I don't use.
http://picasaweb.google.com/simplepractices/FSLowEndMac#5280553382288952562

/Peter
 
limtc...
Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 9:22 am
Guest
Pitz, thank you!

I am still hunting around, cannot find anything yet.

I am trying to help my son Ding Wen bring Cartooners Space Art disk
from Internet to the real GS, without it, he can only work
on the emulator. He is trying to create a space story based on
Cartooners (cool huh? A real Apple IIGS project).

On 5月11日, 上午1时11分, pitz <pitz.w... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
If you can't find one locally, let me know and I'll send you one.
I've got several in my box that I don't use.http://picasaweb.google.com/simplepractices/FSLowEndMac#5280553382288...

/Peter
 
magnusfalkirk...
Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 6:15 pm
Guest
On May 11, 4:22燼m, limtc <thyech... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
Pitz, thank you!

I am still hunting around, cannot find anything yet.

I am trying to help my son Ding Wen bring Cartooners Space Art disk
from Internet to the real GS, without it, he can only work
on the emulator. He is trying to create a space story based on
Cartooners (cool huh? A real Apple IIGS project).


Thye Chean,

just out of curiosity where did you get the Space Art disk for
Cartooners for the GS from? Since I watched the videos you did with
your kids I've been thinking about messing with it and wouldn't mind
having an additional art disk for it.

Thanks,
Dean
 
Polymorph...
Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 11:20 pm
Guest
On May 12, 4:15燼m, magnusfalkirk <dean.pha... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
On May 11, 4:22燼m, limtc <thyech... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

Pitz, thank you!

I am still hunting around, cannot find anything yet.

I am trying to help my son Ding Wen bring Cartooners Space Art disk
from Internet to the real GS, without it, he can only work
on the emulator. He is trying to create a space story based on
Cartooners (cool huh? A real Apple IIGS project).

Thye Chean,

just out of curiosity where did you get the Space Art disk for
Cartooners for the GS from? Since I watched the videos you did with
your kids I've been thinking about messing with it and wouldn't mind
having an additional art disk for it.

Thanks,
Dean

Dean,

According to Alex's news posting on 21/02/2009, he added the Space Art
disk into the Cartooners archive on the "What is the Apple IIgs" site.
You can grab the archive here:

http://www.whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/cartooners/

Cheers,
Mike
 
limtc...
Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 12:18 am
Guest
Hi,

Mike is right, I got it from "What Is The Apple IIGS" site (probably
the most complete site out there for Apple IIGS).

Ding Wen has completed doing the Invader War story animated using the
Space Art on the emulator, however for some reasons we just wanted to
do and run it on a real GS. :)

On 5月12日, 上午2时15分, magnusfalkirk <dean.pha... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
Thye Chean,

just out of curiosity where did you get the Space Art disk for
Cartooners for the GS from? Since I watched the videos you did with
your kids I've been thinking about messing with it and wouldn't mind
having an additional art disk for it.

Thanks,
Dean
 
magnusfalkirk...
Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 1:19 am
Guest
On May 11, 7:18爌m, limtc <thyech... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
Hi,

Mike is right, I got it from "What Is The Apple IIGS" site (probably
the most complete site out there for Apple IIGS).

Ding Wen has completed doing the Invader War story animated using the
Space Art on the emulator, however for some reasons we just wanted to
do and run it on a real GS. :)


Mike and Thye Chean,

Thanks, I had previously downloaded the original file from What is the
Apple IIGS so all I had was the two disks. I just downloaded the new
file with all 3 disks.

Thanks again,
Dean
 
 
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