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| riggor9999... |
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 6:55 pm |
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All - I have an interesting question .....
I have a BEFSR11 router that I have not been using for a while (this has
last firmware available - from 2004). I am a Comcast customer and I am
using a BEFCMU10 DOCSIS 1.1 cable modem.
I was using a Vonage / Motorola VT2442 router but I needed more flexibility
with firewall rules - so I put back my BEFSR11 in place, and put the VT2442
behind the BEFSR11 (via my gigabit switch) and the only thing connected to
the VT2442 is the phone. Phone works fine - no issues.
Cable modem <---> BEFSR11 <---> 24 port gigabit switch <---> pcs,
printers, VT2442, blu-ray player, wireless access points, wii, itouch, etc.
Since I made the change - I noticed my download speeds have slowed down. I
have also gone to the variety of speed test sites and what I basically see
is that powerboost is not working or not there.
I tried these sites - which always show download speeds that include the
effects of powerboost - but now - I always get 6mb down and 3mb up.
http://speedtest.comcast.net/
http://www.speedtest.net/index.php
http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
I looked through the Linksys support sites and various forums but could not
find the answer .... Is there a speed limit to the BEFSR11? Or more
specifically - do older routers not work with Powerboost?
I have not put anything back they way it was - because I need the better /
more flexible firewall rules that the BEFSR11 has and the VT2442 does not.
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| daytripper... |
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 8:45 pm |
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On Wed, 4 Mar 2009 07:55:04 -0500, "riggor9999" <riggor9999 at (no spam) nospam_yahoo.com>
wrote:
Quote: All - I have an interesting question .....
I have a BEFSR11 router that I have not been using for a while (this has
last firmware available - from 2004). I am a Comcast customer and I am
using a BEFCMU10 DOCSIS 1.1 cable modem.
I was using a Vonage / Motorola VT2442 router but I needed more flexibility
with firewall rules - so I put back my BEFSR11 in place, and put the VT2442
behind the BEFSR11 (via my gigabit switch) and the only thing connected to
the VT2442 is the phone. Phone works fine - no issues.
Cable modem <---> BEFSR11 <---> 24 port gigabit switch <---> pcs,
printers, VT2442, blu-ray player, wireless access points, wii, itouch, etc.
Since I made the change - I noticed my download speeds have slowed down. I
have also gone to the variety of speed test sites and what I basically see
is that powerboost is not working or not there.
I tried these sites - which always show download speeds that include the
effects of powerboost - but now - I always get 6mb down and 3mb up.
http://speedtest.comcast.net/
http://www.speedtest.net/index.php
http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
I looked through the Linksys support sites and various forums but could not
find the answer .... Is there a speed limit to the BEFSR11? Or more
specifically - do older routers not work with Powerboost?
I have not put anything back they way it was - because I need the better /
more flexible firewall rules that the BEFSR11 has and the VT2442 does not.
Thx
I'm thinking the WAN port is 10base-T, which would pretty much explain the
throttling of your internet connection... |
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| JR Weiss... |
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:53 am |
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"riggor9999" <riggor9999 at (no spam) nospam_yahoo.com> wrote...
Quote:
Cable modem <---> BEFSR11 <---> 24 port gigabit switch <---> pcs, printers,
VT2442, blu-ray player, wireless access points, wii, itouch, etc.
Since I made the change - I noticed my download speeds have slowed down. I
have also gone to the variety of speed test sites and what I basically see is
that powerboost is not working or not there.
I looked through the Linksys support sites and various forums but could not
find the answer .... Is there a speed limit to the BEFSR11? Or more
specifically - do older routers not work with Powerboost?
Those old routers had 10 Mbps WAN ports. They worked fine when the best you
could EVER get from cable was 12 Mbps, and most of us were lucky to get 5... |
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| riggor9999... |
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 5:42 am |
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"daytripper" <day_trippr at (no spam) REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:cv4tq4pa83f8um2ki0g067ftb8q0rjmhht at (no spam) 4ax.com...
Quote: On Wed, 4 Mar 2009 07:55:04 -0500, "riggor9999"
riggor9999 at (no spam) nospam_yahoo.com
wrote:
All - I have an interesting question .....
I have a BEFSR11 router that I have not been using for a while (this has
last firmware available - from 2004). I am a Comcast customer and I am
using a BEFCMU10 DOCSIS 1.1 cable modem.
I was using a Vonage / Motorola VT2442 router but I needed more
flexibility
with firewall rules - so I put back my BEFSR11 in place, and put the
VT2442
behind the BEFSR11 (via my gigabit switch) and the only thing connected to
the VT2442 is the phone. Phone works fine - no issues.
Cable modem <---> BEFSR11 <---> 24 port gigabit switch <---> pcs,
printers, VT2442, blu-ray player, wireless access points, wii, itouch,
etc.
Since I made the change - I noticed my download speeds have slowed down. I
have also gone to the variety of speed test sites and what I basically see
is that powerboost is not working or not there.
I tried these sites - which always show download speeds that include the
effects of powerboost - but now - I always get 6mb down and 3mb up.
http://speedtest.comcast.net/
http://www.speedtest.net/index.php
http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
I looked through the Linksys support sites and various forums but could
not
find the answer .... Is there a speed limit to the BEFSR11? Or more
specifically - do older routers not work with Powerboost?
I have not put anything back they way it was - because I need the better /
more flexible firewall rules that the BEFSR11 has and the VT2442 does not.
Thx
I'm thinking the WAN port is 10base-T, which would pretty much explain the
throttling of your internet connection...
That is exactly it ... I did not think to check - ugh ...
WAN: 10Mbps (10BaseT Ethernet)
LAN: 10Mbps (10BaseT Ethernet) or 100Mbps (100BaseTX Fast Ethernet) |
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| riggor9999... |
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 5:42 am |
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"JR Weiss" <jrweiss at (no spam) invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:gomirq$f98$1 at (no spam) news.motzarella.org...
Quote: "riggor9999" <riggor9999 at (no spam) nospam_yahoo.com> wrote...
Cable modem <---> BEFSR11 <---> 24 port gigabit switch <---> pcs,
printers, VT2442, blu-ray player, wireless access points, wii, itouch,
etc.
Since I made the change - I noticed my download speeds have slowed down.
I have also gone to the variety of speed test sites and what I basically
see is that powerboost is not working or not there.
I looked through the Linksys support sites and various forums but could
not find the answer .... Is there a speed limit to the BEFSR11? Or more
specifically - do older routers not work with Powerboost?
Those old routers had 10 Mbps WAN ports. They worked fine when the best
you could EVER get from cable was 12 Mbps, and most of us were lucky to
get 5...
That is exactly it ... I did not think to check - ugh ...
WAN: 10Mbps (10BaseT Ethernet)
LAN: 10Mbps (10BaseT Ethernet) or 100Mbps (100BaseTX Fast Ethernet) |
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| Steve Baker... |
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 6:06 am |
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On Wed, 4 Mar 2009 18:42:18 -0500, "riggor9999"
<riggor9999 at (no spam) nospam_yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: I tried these sites - which always show download speeds that include the
effects of powerboost - but now - I always get 6mb down and 3mb up.
....
Quote: I'm thinking the WAN port is 10base-T, which would pretty much explain the
throttling of your internet connection...
That is exactly it ... I did not think to check - ugh ...
WAN: 10Mbps (10BaseT Ethernet)
That wouldn't limit you to 6 Mb, though. I'm gonna guess that that
problem is about Powerboost needing DOCSIS 1.1+.
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| Steve Baker... |
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 7:16 am |
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On Wed, 04 Mar 2009 21:19:06 -0500, daytripper
<day_trippr at (no spam) REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: Ethernet uses 8b/10b coding, so even *before* you strip out packet headers and
other cruft, the maximum payload throughput - on a good day going down hill
with a supersonic tail wind is 8Mbit/second...
Hmm. My old 10 Mb NIC would do right around 10 Mb on LAN transfers
(according to an FTP program).
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Steve Baker |
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| riggor9999... |
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 7:16 am |
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"Steve Baker" <bakesph at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote in message
news:fj5uq41bl5cc1iu85q1u8kmldbuhlst9l5 at (no spam) 4ax.com...
Quote: On Wed, 4 Mar 2009 18:42:18 -0500, "riggor9999"
riggor9999 at (no spam) nospam_yahoo.com> wrote:
I tried these sites - which always show download speeds that include the
effects of powerboost - but now - I always get 6mb down and 3mb up.
...
I'm thinking the WAN port is 10base-T, which would pretty much explain
the
throttling of your internet connection...
That is exactly it ... I did not think to check - ugh ...
WAN: 10Mbps (10BaseT Ethernet)
That wouldn't limit you to 6 Mb, though. I'm gonna guess that that
problem is about Powerboost needing DOCSIS 1.1+.
It was fine with the same cable modem and the motorola vt2442 router. I am
guessing that since the wan interface is only 10mb ... powerboost senses the
limitation and stops "boosting" so it falls back to the standard 6mb.
http://www.comcast.net/powerboost/ |
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| daytripper... |
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 7:16 am |
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On Wed, 04 Mar 2009 19:06:18 -0500, Steve Baker <bakesph at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
Quote: On Wed, 4 Mar 2009 18:42:18 -0500, "riggor9999"
riggor9999 at (no spam) nospam_yahoo.com> wrote:
I tried these sites - which always show download speeds that include the
effects of powerboost - but now - I always get 6mb down and 3mb up.
...
I'm thinking the WAN port is 10base-T, which would pretty much explain the
throttling of your internet connection...
That is exactly it ... I did not think to check - ugh ...
WAN: 10Mbps (10BaseT Ethernet)
That wouldn't limit you to 6 Mb, though. I'm gonna guess that that
problem is about Powerboost needing DOCSIS 1.1+.
Ethernet uses 8b/10b coding, so even *before* you strip out packet headers and
other cruft, the maximum payload throughput - on a good day going down hill
with a supersonic tail wind is 8Mbit/second... |
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| Rob -- invalid... |
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 6:27 pm |
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"riggor9999" <riggor9999 at (no spam) nospam_yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:goltn6$7ht$1 at (no spam) news.motzarella.org...
Quote: All - I have an interesting question .....
I have a BEFSR11 router that I have not been using for a while (this has
last firmware available - from 2004). I am a Comcast customer and I am
using a BEFCMU10 DOCSIS 1.1 cable modem.
I was using a Vonage / Motorola VT2442 router but I needed more
flexibility with firewall rules - so I put back my BEFSR11 in place, and
put the VT2442 behind the BEFSR11 (via my gigabit switch) and the only
thing connected to the VT2442 is the phone. Phone works fine - no issues.
Cable modem <---> BEFSR11 <---> 24 port gigabit switch <---> pcs,
printers, VT2442, blu-ray player, wireless access points, wii, itouch,
etc.
Since I made the change - I noticed my download speeds have slowed down. I
have also gone to the variety of speed test sites and what I basically see
is that powerboost is not working or not there.
I tried these sites - which always show download speeds that include the
effects of powerboost - but now - I always get 6mb down and 3mb up.
http://speedtest.comcast.net/
http://www.speedtest.net/index.php
http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
I looked through the Linksys support sites and various forums but could
not find the answer .... Is there a speed limit to the BEFSR11? Or more
specifically - do older routers not work with Powerboost?
I have not put anything back they way it was - because I need the better /
more flexible firewall rules that the BEFSR11 has and the VT2442 does not.
Thx
Bypass the (BEFSR41) router (direct to the computer) and I get 22 mbps.
Via the router I get 5 mbps. |
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| Rob -- invalid... |
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 6:31 pm |
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"riggor9999" <riggor9999 at (no spam) nospam_yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:gon3l7$600$1 at (no spam) news.motzarella.org...
Quote:
"JR Weiss" <jrweiss at (no spam) invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:gomirq$f98$1 at (no spam) news.motzarella.org...
"riggor9999" <riggor9999 at (no spam) nospam_yahoo.com> wrote...
Cable modem <---> BEFSR11 <---> 24 port gigabit switch <---> pcs,
printers, VT2442, blu-ray player, wireless access points, wii, itouch,
etc.
Since I made the change - I noticed my download speeds have slowed down.
I have also gone to the variety of speed test sites and what I basically
see is that powerboost is not working or not there.
I looked through the Linksys support sites and various forums but could
not find the answer .... Is there a speed limit to the BEFSR11? Or more
specifically - do older routers not work with Powerboost?
Those old routers had 10 Mbps WAN ports. They worked fine when the best
you could EVER get from cable was 12 Mbps, and most of us were lucky to
get 5...
That is exactly it ... I did not think to check - ugh ...
WAN: 10Mbps (10BaseT Ethernet)
LAN: 10Mbps (10BaseT Ethernet) or 100Mbps (100BaseTX Fast Ethernet)
And if you bypass the router and go direct --
you get both 22 mbps and a different IP address. |
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| f/fgeorge... |
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 7:30 pm |
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On Thu, 5 Mar 2009 06:27:14 -0600, "Rob -- invalid"
<invalid at (no spam) somewheronearth.INVALID> wrote:
Quote:
I have not put anything back they way it was - because I need the better /
more flexible firewall rules that the BEFSR11 has and the VT2442 does not.
Thx
Bypass the (BEFSR41) router (direct to the computer) and I get 22 mbps.
Via the router I get 5 mbps.
Time for a new router then! You can always rent one from 'them'. You
know it will work! |
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| Thomas T. Veldhouse... |
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 8:00 pm |
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In alt.online-service.comcast Steve Baker <bakesph at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
Quote: WAN: 10Mbps (10BaseT Ethernet)
That wouldn't limit you to 6 Mb, though. I'm gonna guess that that
problem is about Powerboost needing DOCSIS 1.1+.
Actually, with overhead, it might limit you to 8Mbps. My guess is that
particular modem, they simply limit to 6 Mbps as a configuration choice rather
than telling it to "open up".
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Thomas T. Veldhouse
Religion is a crutch, but that's okay... humanity is a cripple. |
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| Thomas T. Veldhouse... |
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 8:03 pm |
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In alt.online-service.comcast Steve Baker <bakesph at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
Quote: On Wed, 04 Mar 2009 21:19:06 -0500, daytripper
day_trippr at (no spam) REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote:
Ethernet uses 8b/10b coding, so even *before* you strip out packet headers and
other cruft, the maximum payload throughput - on a good day going down hill
with a supersonic tail wind is 8Mbit/second...
Hmm. My old 10 Mb NIC would do right around 10 Mb on LAN transfers
(according to an FTP program).
The software must have been reporting incorrectly then. There is transport
overhead [i.e. ethernet frames] and there is TCP/IP protocol overhead, both of
which affect an FTP transfer. The previous poster is correct ... 8Mbps on a
good day [which is about 1.0 MB/s].
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Thomas T. Veldhouse
Religion is a crutch, but that's okay... humanity is a cripple. |
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| Thad Floryan... |
Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 5:07 am |
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On Mar 5, 5:30 am, f/fgeorge <ffgeo... at (no spam) yourplace.com> wrote:
Quote: On Thu, 5 Mar 2009 06:27:14 -0600, "Rob -- invalid"
inva... at (no spam) somewheronearth.INVALID> wrote:
I have not put anything back they way it was - because I need the better /
more flexible firewall rules that the BEFSR11 has and the VT2442 does not.
Thx
Bypass the (BEFSR41) router (direct to the computer) and I get 22 mbps.
Via the router I get 5 mbps.
Time for a new router then! You can always rent one from 'them'. You
know it will work!
Except you'll pay 5x or more over its lifetime than buying one
yourself.
The BEFSR41 routers are typically $55 or so. If you do choose to buy
one,
make sure it's at least a hardware version 4.3; the earlier versions
don't
have a 100 Mbps WAN port.
FWIW, my setup is:
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Motorola Surfboard SB5101
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SonicWall TZ-170 Hardware Firewall
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Linksys BEFSR41 Version 4.3
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LAN switches
Comcast rolled-out DOCSIS 3.0 here on March 3; I ran the
speedtest, results here:
<http://thadlabs.com/PIX/Comcast_20090303.jpg>
An article describing the DOCSIS 3.0 rollout is here:
<http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?
blogid=19&entry_id=36455> |
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