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 Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 5:23 am |
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Anyone remember "Storage Computer Corporation"? They had the
unforgettable stock ticker symbol SOS, owned the domain name
storage.com, sold RAID-7 disk arrays (which turned out to be RAID-4
with a write cache, and got the RAB all hot and bothered), and were
owned/operated by Theodore (Ted) Goodlander. Located in New Hampshire
(in the old Digital/Wang area).
They used to be mildly amusing in the mid 90s, when they were going
around selling RAID-7 arrays to VAX sites, claiming that their great
invention of RAID-7 was so much better than anything else - but the
benchmarks they showed was a big disk array compared to a single RA82.
And when people asked what the magic sauce in RAID-7 was, they got
very testy. They used to spam both comp.os.vms and comp.arch.storage
regularly, and the very brash CEO Ted Goodlander used to back up his
sales people in spamming and making inane claims.
The high point of their existance (from a comedy point of view) was
when they filed a patent on pretty much any parity-based RAID scheme
in the 1990s, which was eventually granted (the patent office is
pretty sloppy), and tried to enforce it on people selling RAID-5 disk
arrays. XIOTech I think caved and settled for a few M$ (cheaper than
a lawsuit any day). Then they made the mistake of sueing Hitachi
(HDS, the disk array maker), which went to trial in a European court.
I think one of the original authors of the 89 RAID taxonomy paper
(Gibson/Katz/Patterson) was an expert witness for Hitachi. Storage
Computer had their had handed to them on a platter by the judge, who
if I remember right found the patent to be fraudulent and invalid;
this must have been around 2002-2004 or such.
Then it got really quiet around them. I presume they didn't survive
that blow, since their operations as a disk array company were already
pretty lost. A little web search shows that the domain name is sold,
the stock is de-facto dormant, there are regulatory filings, and the
only news I can find for Ted Goodlander is that he got a permit from
the state of New Hampshire to modify his boat dock in 2007.
Did they go under? Are the principals still involved in anything?
The purpose of my question is purely historical, idle curiosity.
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Ralph Becker-Szendy _firstname_ at (no spam) lr_dot_los-gatos_dot_ca_dot_us
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| Cydrome Leader... |
| Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 5:23 am |
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_firstname_ at (no spam) lr_dot_los-gatos_dot_ca_dot_us wrote:
Quote: Anyone remember "Storage Computer Corporation"? They had the
unforgettable stock ticker symbol SOS, owned the domain name
storage.com, sold RAID-7 disk arrays (which turned out to be RAID-4
with a write cache, and got the RAB all hot and bothered), and were
owned/operated by Theodore (Ted) Goodlander. Located in New Hampshire
(in the old Digital/Wang area).
never heard of this, but when I hear 'raid 7', I think this place:
http://www.firstsol.com/raid7.html
the specs are fairly amusing. |
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| Cydrome Leader... |
| Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:46 am |
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calypso at (no spam) fly.srk.fer.hr.invalid wrote:
Quote: Cydrome Leader <presence at (no spam) mungepanix.com> kenjka:
Anyone remember "Storage Computer Corporation"? They had the
unforgettable stock ticker symbol SOS, owned the domain name
storage.com, sold RAID-7 disk arrays (which turned out to be RAID-4
with a write cache, and got the RAB all hot and bothered), and were
owned/operated by Theodore (Ted) Goodlander. Located in New Hampshire
(in the old Digital/Wang area).
never heard of this, but when I hear 'raid 7', I think this place:
http://www.firstsol.com/raid7.html
the specs are fairly amusing.
LOL... 5 million bytes per second... 
yeah, when even the numbers are small they have to use larger spelled out
words to fill in the space. |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:06 am |
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Cydrome Leader <presence at (no spam) mungepanix.com> kenjka:
Quote: never heard of this, but when I hear 'raid 7', I think this place:
http://www.firstsol.com/raid7.html
the specs are fairly amusing.
LOL... 5 million bytes per second... ;)
yeah, when even the numbers are small they have to use larger spelled out
words to fill in the space.
Yup, funny guys... :)
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| Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:36 am |
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Igor Batinic <_ime_._prezime_ at (no spam) email.htnet.hr> kenjka:
Quote: LOL... 5 million bytes per second... ;)
yeah, when even the numbers are small they have to use larger spelled out
words to fill in the space.
Yup, funny guys... :)
Check out those pics, it seems that it was 15 years ago. Pretty good for
those days.  )
Oh, you're here too?!  )) Cool! :)
Yeah, I've seen those retro chips on the board in those pictures... In
fact, it is about 20 years old... :)
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| Igor Batinic... |
| Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:11 pm |
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Hi!
calypso at (no spam) fly.srk.fer.hr.invalid wrote:
Quote: Cydrome Leader <presence at (no spam) mungepanix.com> kenjka:
never heard of this, but when I hear 'raid 7', I think this place:
http://www.firstsol.com/raid7.html
the specs are fairly amusing.
LOL... 5 million bytes per second... ;)
yeah, when even the numbers are small they have to use larger spelled out
words to fill in the space.
Yup, funny guys...
Check out those pics, it seems that it was 15 years ago. Pretty good for
those days. )
Best regards,
Iggy |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:01 pm |
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Morten Reistad <first at (no spam) last.name> kenjka:
Quote: LOL... 5 million bytes per second... ;)
Remember the host systems they pushed this for went out of production
nearly 20 years ago. On the old, 1986ish generation of scsi-1 controllers
a performance of 5 mb/sec on scattered read/writes was a pretty good
one.
I know that, but I was kidding with the way it was written... 5 million
bytes per second instead of 5MB/s...  Marketing trick... ;)
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| Morten Reistad... |
| Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 3:56 pm |
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In article <gmdop4$asj$1 at (no spam) reader1.panix.com>,
Cydrome Leader <presence at (no spam) MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:
Quote: _firstname_ at (no spam) lr_dot_los-gatos_dot_ca_dot_us wrote:
Anyone remember "Storage Computer Corporation"? They had the
unforgettable stock ticker symbol SOS, owned the domain name
storage.com, sold RAID-7 disk arrays (which turned out to be RAID-4
with a write cache, and got the RAB all hot and bothered), and were
owned/operated by Theodore (Ted) Goodlander. Located in New Hampshire
(in the old Digital/Wang area).
never heard of this, but when I hear 'raid 7', I think this place:
http://www.firstsol.com/raid7.html
the specs are fairly amusing.
A PPOE purchased a few of these units after the local Storcomp vendor
won a tender. They worked pretty much as expected. All tests worked;
i.e. the memory battery backup worked. We were a little edgy, though.
The hardware design was pretty OK, we could insert and remove disks on
the fly without alarms in the host OS, and the performance for legacy
systems (Tandem and Prime included) was very good. But from total paranoia
we decided to mirror two independent storcomp raids. That gave pretty
good performance. We also had the local vendor upgrade the batteries
radically.
The postings from Goodlander almost made us ignore the tender, though.
Except the competition (Dynatech etc) were soo lame. They even managed
to run foul of the anti-corruption rules. And they had a good, local
vendor that didn't parrot the Raid7 crap too intensely.
If they had just pushed Storage for a mixed environment I think they
would have been a lot more successful. They way they moved they
pushed customers away.
-- mrr |
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| Morten Reistad... |
| Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 3:58 pm |
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In article <gmedgk$veb$2 at (no spam) news2.carnet.hr>,
<calypso at (no spam) fly.srk.fer.hr.invalid> wrote:
Quote: Cydrome Leader <presence at (no spam) mungepanix.com> kenjka:
Anyone remember "Storage Computer Corporation"? They had the
unforgettable stock ticker symbol SOS, owned the domain name
storage.com, sold RAID-7 disk arrays (which turned out to be RAID-4
with a write cache, and got the RAB all hot and bothered), and were
owned/operated by Theodore (Ted) Goodlander. Located in New Hampshire
(in the old Digital/Wang area).
never heard of this, but when I hear 'raid 7', I think this place:
http://www.firstsol.com/raid7.html
the specs are fairly amusing.
LOL... 5 million bytes per second...
Remember the host systems they pushed this for went out of production
nearly 20 years ago. On the old, 1986ish generation of scsi-1 controllers
a performance of 5 mb/sec on scattered read/writes was a pretty good
one.
-- mrr |
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