I have a desktop with an internal 56K modem that won't connect at more than
28.8. I don't think it's the phone line because my wife's laptop is
connected to the same line and gets connect speeds of 36 to 42. I have a
laptop and although it's not on the same physical line, it is in the same
incoming line to the home and it also connects at roughly 36 to 40. I've
tried all of the settings (XP home) on the desktop that I can think of and
nothing seems to help. I might understand that it could be a noisy line
problem but this machine *never* connects at more than 28.8 - sometimes a
little lower, but never more than 28.8. I suspected that the modem might be
faulty so I bought a new modem and it does exactly the same.

Does anyone have any ideas as to what my problem might be?

TIA,
HarryS

On 12/18/2008 02:55 PM, HarryS sent:
I have a desktop with an internal 56K modem that won't connect at more
than
28.8. I don't think it's the phone line because my wife's laptop is
connected to the same line and gets connect speeds of 36 to 42. I have a
laptop and although it's not on the same physical line, it is in the same
incoming line to the home and it also connects at roughly 36 to 40. I've
tried all of the settings (XP home) on the desktop that I can think of
and
nothing seems to help. I might understand that it could be a noisy line
problem but this machine *never* connects at more than 28.8 - sometimes a
little lower, but never more than 28.8. I suspected that the modem might
be
faulty so I bought a new modem and it does exactly the same.

Does anyone have any ideas as to what my problem might be?

TIA,
HarryS



Hello HarryS:

Several things would be very helpful:

Make and model of the modem.

"AT" command string used to initialize the modem.

Many other impairments exist that do not manifest as noise on twisted
pairs. Would it be possible to temporarily use the wife's physical
phone line as a speed test? If the lines have different dial numbers,
then they have separate pairs, possibly all the way to the service
provider's central office.

Please update this thread.

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"1PW" <barcrnahgjuvfgyr at (no spam) nby.pbz> wrote in message
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On 12/18/2008 02:55 PM, HarryS sent:
I have a desktop with an internal 56K modem that won't connect at more
than
28.8. I don't think it's the phone line because my wife's laptop is
connected to the same line and gets connect speeds of 36 to 42. I have a
laptop and although it's not on the same physical line, it is in the same
incoming line to the home and it also connects at roughly 36 to 40. I've
tried all of the settings (XP home) on the desktop that I can think of
and
nothing seems to help. I might understand that it could be a noisy line
problem but this machine *never* connects at more than 28.8 - sometimes a
little lower, but never more than 28.8. I suspected that the modem might
be
faulty so I bought a new modem and it does exactly the same.

Does anyone have any ideas as to what my problem might be?

TIA,
HarryS


Hello HarryS:

Several things would be very helpful:

Make and model# of the modem.

"AT" command string used to initialize the modem.

Many other impairments exist that do not manifest as noise on twisted
pairs. Would it be possible to temporarily use the wife's physical
phone line as a speed test? If the lines have different dial numbers,
then they have separate pairs, possibly all the way to the service
provider's central office.

Please update this thread.

--
1PW at (no spam) ?6A62?FEH9:DE=6o2 at (no spam) =]4 at (no spam) > [r4o7t]

Thanks 1PW,

My wife's line uses the same number and is a twisted pair line going from
the line out connection on the modem on the problem desktop.

Would it help if I post the modem connection log contents from the Modem tab
of Phone and Modem Option in Control Panel? The log shows the make and
model of the modem as well as the initialization commands.

HarryS

On 12/18/2008 06:21 PM, HarryS sent:
"1PW" <barcrnahgjuvfgyr at (no spam) nby.pbz> wrote in message
news:giem7c$ske$1 at (no spam) news.motzarella.org...
On 12/18/2008 02:55 PM, HarryS sent:
I have a desktop with an internal 56K modem that won't connect at more
than
28.8. I don't think it's the phone line because my wife's laptop is
connected to the same line and gets connect speeds of 36 to 42. I have
a
laptop and although it's not on the same physical line, it is in the
same
incoming line to the home and it also connects at roughly 36 to 40.
I've
tried all of the settings (XP home) on the desktop that I can think of
and
nothing seems to help. I might understand that it could be a noisy
line
problem but this machine *never* connects at more than 28.8 - sometimes
a
little lower, but never more than 28.8. I suspected that the modem
might
be
faulty so I bought a new modem and it does exactly the same.

Does anyone have any ideas as to what my problem might be?

TIA,
HarryS


Hello HarryS:

Several things would be very helpful:

Make and model# of the modem.

"AT" command string used to initialize the modem.

Many other impairments exist that do not manifest as noise on twisted
pairs. Would it be possible to temporarily use the wife's physical
phone line as a speed test? If the lines have different dial numbers,
then they have separate pairs, possibly all the way to the service
provider's central office.

Please update this thread.

--
1PW at (no spam) ?6A62?FEH9:DE=6o2 at (no spam) =]4 at (no spam) > [r4o7t]

Thanks 1PW,

My wife's line uses the same number and is a twisted pair line going from
the line out connection on the modem on the problem desktop.

Would it help if I post the modem connection log contents from the Modem
tab
of Phone and Modem Option in Control Panel? The log shows the make and
model of the modem as well as the initialization commands.

HarryS



If the log doesn't exceed more than a page, OK. Else many would not
take the time to read too much detail.

Are the new and old modems, used in your desktop, the same make/model#?

Have you tried any changes that would rule out the twisted pair
extension that runs to the system in question? Can or has a laptop been
moved to the exact location where the system in question is? Assuming
the twisted pair was unplugged from the system in question and plugged
into a laptop. If so, what was the result? This test may seem
redundant, but it is still a good cross check.

Well, I entirely removed the laptop from the system and attached the twisted
pair directly from the wall plug to the desktop modem. I then attempted
three connects and got 28.8, 31.2, 31.2. This is the first time out of
100's of connects that I've gotten anything over 28.8. I assume this is
telling me that the twisted pair coming to the wall plug is somehow
compromised?

I ran a temporary line from the box on the side of the house directly to
the problem computer. When I connected the temporary line on the outside,
I disconnected the existing line into the house before connecting the temp
line so that the only line is the temp line. I connected 4 times and got
speeds of 31.2, 28.8, 31.2, 28.8. That's basically what I was getting
before on either modem. So, I guess that leaves me with something wrong
in the computer or two modems that both have a problem?

I have a desktop with an internal 56K modem that won't connect at more than
28.8. I don't think it's the phone line because my wife's laptop is
connected to the same line and gets connect speeds of 36 to 42. I have a
laptop and although it's not on the same physical line, it is in the same
incoming line to the home and it also connects at roughly 36 to 40. I've
tried all of the settings (XP home) on the desktop that I can think of and
nothing seems to help. I might understand that it could be a noisy line
problem but this machine *never* connects at more than 28.8 - sometimes a
little lower, but never more than 28.8. I suspected that the modem might
be faulty so I bought a new modem and it does exactly the same.

Does anyone have any ideas as to what my problem might be?

TIA,
HarryS

Not necessarily. It could be that the "problem" modems are more honest.

On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 11:59:07 -0600, HarryS <hsom-spam- at (no spam) showmepro.com
wrote:

I ran a temporary line from the box on the side of the house directly to
the problem computer. When I connected the temporary line on the
outside,
I disconnected the existing line into the house before connecting the
temp
line so that the only line is the temp line. I connected 4 times and got
speeds of 31.2, 28.8, 31.2, 28.8. That's basically what I was getting
before on either modem. So, I guess that leaves me with something wrong
in the computer or two modems that both have a problem?

Not necessarily. It could be that the "problem" modems are more honest.

I live in a rural area where dialup is pretty much the only terrestrial
game
going, and I'm about ten miles from the nearest digital trunk. My
Couriers
only rarely succeed in negotiating V.90 connections, and when they do they
quickly downshift to something in the 30 kbps neighborhood (typically
before
ppp negotiation can successfully proceed). In contrast, I've seen
neighbors' cheapo winmodems consistently report 50 kbps+. Either way, the
actual throughput for incompressible data ends up being about the same (3
kiB/s and change).

On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 11:59:07 -0600, HarryS <hsom-spam- at (no spam) showmepro.com
wrote:

I ran a temporary line from the box on the side of the house directly to
the problem computer. When I connected the temporary line on the
outside,
I disconnected the existing line into the house before connecting the
temp
line so that the only line is the temp line. I connected 4 times and got
speeds of 31.2, 28.8, 31.2, 28.8. That's basically what I was getting
before on either modem. So, I guess that leaves me with something wrong
in the computer or two modems that both have a problem?

Not necessarily. It could be that the "problem" modems are more honest.

I live in a rural area where dialup is pretty much the only terrestrial
game
going, and I'm about ten miles from the nearest digital trunk. My
Couriers
only rarely succeed in negotiating V.90 connections, and when they do they
quickly downshift to something in the 30 kbps neighborhood (typically
before
ppp negotiation can successfully proceed). In contrast, I've seen
neighbors' cheapo winmodems consistently report 50 kbps+. Either way, the
actual throughput for incompressible data ends up being about the same (3
kiB/s and change).

Hopefully you folks are bearing with me on this. It took me awhile, but I
finally got the time to check if my problem is in the lines inside the
house.

I ran a temporary line from the box on the side of the house directly to the
problem computer. When I connected the temporary line on the outside, I
disconnected the existing line into the house before connecting the temp
line so that the only line is the temp line. I connected 4 times and got
speeds of 31.2, 28.8, 31.2, 28.8. That's basically what I was getting
before on either modem. So, I guess that leaves me with something wrong in
the computer or two modems that both have a problem?

No, this means the problem isn't inside wiring or devices, and is

I have a question that's off-topic for this thread, but what could I have
done wrong that my post to the thread (that you just replied to) isn't
showing for me in the list of posts in this thread?

This depends on your newsreader client and your server. If Giganews

"R.L. Horn" <news at (no spam) eastcheap.org> wrote in message
news:slrngmkfok.1so.news at (no spam) hani.compact.internal...
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 11:59:07 -0600, HarryS <hsom-spam- at (no spam) showmepro.com
wrote:

I ran a temporary line from the box on the side of the house directly to
the problem computer. When I connected the temporary line on the
outside,
I disconnected the existing line into the house before connecting the
temp
line so that the only line is the temp line. I connected 4 times and got
speeds of 31.2, 28.8, 31.2, 28.8. That's basically what I was getting
before on either modem. So, I guess that leaves me with something wrong
in the computer or two modems that both have a problem?

Not necessarily. It could be that the "problem" modems are more honest.

I live in a rural area where dialup is pretty much the only terrestrial
game
going, and I'm about ten miles from the nearest digital trunk. My
Couriers
only rarely succeed in negotiating V.90 connections, and when they do they
quickly downshift to something in the 30 kbps neighborhood (typically
before
ppp negotiation can successfully proceed). In contrast, I've seen
neighbors' cheapo winmodems consistently report 50 kbps+. Either way, the
actual throughput for incompressible data ends up being about the same (3
kiB/s and change).

Hmmm... Well, I don't have any kind of utility to actually 'see' the
throughput speed. I have to upload 2-4MB zip files via ftp quite frequently
and it certainly *seems* that the problem computer is slower to complete the
upload. The modems that show a higher connect speed are in a couple of Dell
laptops. I'll make the time to upload the same file on one of the laptops
and on the problem computer and see how much the upload times differ.

Surely a modem manufacturer wouldn't do something as deceitful as you
suggest. ;-(