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| Bo |
 Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 11:59 pm |
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Hi
I will discuss job offer with a game company soon. Please post how
much I should bargain for.
-job title: port engineer (j2me, Brew phone games)
-at San Francisco
Me:
-fresh out of college
-I think they hired me because I made an impressive 3D engine in Java.
But because '3d engine programmer' pays more than people who ports,
they will still offer the job to me as a port engineer.
-If there is info on '3d engine programmer' for phones please provide
it.
thnx! |
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| Tom Sloper |
| Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 3:19 am |
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"Bo" <snarlly@hotmail.com> wrote...
Quote: I will discuss job offer with a game company soon. Please post how
much I should bargain for.
-fresh out of college
Bo, read the game industry Salary Survey at
http://www.gamasutra.com/features/20040211/olsen_01.shtml
If you have to register to access that site, DO IT.
You do not have any bargaining power. They'll make you an offer. TAKE IT.
You can always "bargain" with the next employer.
Good luck getting the job - Tom
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Tom Sloper - Game Designer, Producer, Consultant
- Sloperama Productions. Services for game developers and publishers;
"Making Games Fun, And Getting Them Done."
http://www.sloperama.com/business.html.
- Helpful information for game industry hopefuls; a new article every month.
http://www.sloperama.com/advice.html. |
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| Yakov |
| Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:16 am |
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Send your resume to several job agencies. If they will call you back,
ask them what's would be a reasonable salary for a person with your
skills. If nobody calls you back, this means that your chances of
getting any job are slim, so tell your gaming company that you are
open for any fair offer and take it!
Regards,
Yakov |
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| William |
| Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:15 pm |
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"Bo" <snarlly@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4f190004.0409221159.65aa3339@posting.google.com...
Quote: Hi
I will discuss job offer with a game company soon. Please post how
much I should bargain for.
-job title: port engineer (j2me, Brew phone games)
-at San Francisco
Well, you're not in a strong bargaining position without a track
record, but... You should find out what it costs to live in SF
and make sure your take-home pay will be comfortably above
that. Check out relocation and real estate sites to find out what
apartments, food, transportation, etc. will cost you in SF. (Many
sites have calculators which will convert a wage in one city to
the equivalent in another based on CoL differences.) Once
you have the amount you know you'll need to take home,
multiply it by about a ratio to account for taxes, misc. expenses,
etc. (I think 1.7 or so sounds right, but do the math yourself) to
get an estimate of your salary needs. (If you don't live in Calif.
now, you may not realize that state income taxes will take a
significant bite.)
With that figure in hand, and the supporting argument, you can
at least try to coax them into something you can live with. -Wm |
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| Raghar |
| Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 11:26 pm |
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snarlly@hotmail.com (Bo) wrote in
news:4f190004.0409221159.65aa3339@posting.google.com:
Quote: Hi
I will discuss job offer with a game company soon. Please post
how much I should bargain for.
You shouldn't if is it your first job. (Of course if you are
dealing with people that would like to have a new house... And your
low sallary would add a little money for that...)
Quote:
-job title: port engineer (j2me, Brew phone games)
-at San Francisco
Me:
-fresh out of college
-I think they hired me because I made an impressive 3D engine in
Java. But because '3d engine programmer' pays more than people
who ports, they will still offer the job to me as a port
engineer. -If there is info on '3d engine programmer' for phones
please provide it.
thnx!
They should teach you write sentences more gently. It looks like
letter from 16 year old baseball player.
Of course if they would pay you enough for food, rent, and a little
savings, it would be nice.
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Kizutsuite 'ta ano hi kara |
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| Lin Ke-Fong |
| Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 10:08 am |
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Quote: -job title: port engineer (j2me, Brew phone games) -at San Francisco
Is this at Digital Chocolate?
If it is, you may want to stay away:
http://www.ferrago.com/story/2366
Read the comments. |
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| Phlip |
| Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 7:22 pm |
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Lin Ke-Fong wrote:
Quote: -job title: port engineer (j2me, Brew phone games) -at San Francisco
Is this at Digital Chocolate?
If it is, you may want to stay away:
http://www.ferrago.com/story/2366
Read the comments.
Ouch. Someone has the bad kind of money addiction there.
My advice to the OP is to take the job, for whatever pay, and then
_immediately_ start looking for the next job. Use that shop as leverage and
resume fodder, not as a carreer path. Some bosses simply cannot be trusted,
whether or not their company is successful.
(Wish I had taken that advice myself a while back!)
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Phlip
http://industrialxp.org/community/bin/view/Main/TestFirstUserInterfaces |
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| Thummp |
| Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 2:37 am |
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another_lin@yahoo.com (Lin Ke-Fong) wrote in message news:<aa9f93a8.0410022208.41a96530@posting.google.com>...
Quote: -job title: port engineer (j2me, Brew phone games) -at San Francisco
Is this at Digital Chocolate?
If it is, you may want to stay away:
http://www.ferrago.com/story/2366
Read the comments.
Coupla notes here.
Trip Hawkins did succeed with EA, so worst case, he is 1 for 1. Since
DC secured over 20 million in funding, your paycheck would probably be
safe for a while.
To the origional poster...
If what you want is to break into the gaming industry, then simply
take the job and worry about salary later. It's a very difficult
industry to break into and if you want to be rich making computer
games you'd better be VERY lucky, or acclimated to disappointment.
That said I started as a porting engineer for Broderbund software for
$27k. Course that was 10 years ago.
--Thummp
P.S. Someone suggested taking the job while you look for another.
That is a real tacky way to operate, and you will find yourself
struggling to explain the gaps or short employment periods on your
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| Signal9 |
| Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 6:37 am |
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Raghar <notfor@mail.com> wrote in message news:<Xns9571EA39C466Raghar@195.250.128.45>...
Quote: snarlly@hotmail.com (Bo) wrote in
news:4f190004.0409221159.65aa3339@posting.google.com:
Hi
I will discuss job offer with a game company soon. Please post
how much I should bargain for.
You shouldn't if is it your first job. (Of course if you are
dealing with people that would like to have a new house... And your
low sallary would add a little money for that...)
-job title: port engineer (j2me, Brew phone games)
-at San Francisco
Me:
-fresh out of college
-I think they hired me because I made an impressive 3D engine in
Java. But because '3d engine programmer' pays more than people
who ports, they will still offer the job to me as a port
engineer. -If there is info on '3d engine programmer' for phones
please provide it.
thnx!
They should teach you write sentences more gently. It looks like
letter from 16 year old baseball player.
Of course if they would pay you enough for food, rent, and a little
savings, it would be nice.
Well do not be too upset but game developers make the least amount of
money in the industry. But I will tell you one important fact.... Do
what you enjoy !
if you want to be a game developer then do so ! do not get hung up on
the money right away...
I also did game development in school, wrote a DX9 game engine in C++
(took around 3 months to learn DX9 API and then write the engine, with
sound and other components), but when i finished school I decided it
was better to write enterprise level business applications. |
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